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Conversations about global commodity markets and the disruptive technologies driving the transition to a low-carbon economy. Each week, Dana Perkins sits down with different BloombergNEF (BNEF) analysts to discuss their latest research and unique perspective on the future of energy, transport, agriculture, sustainability and more.
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United States
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Conversations about global commodity markets and the disruptive technologies driving the transition to a low-carbon economy. Each week, Dana Perkins sits down with different BloombergNEF (BNEF) analysts to discuss their latest research and unique perspective on the future of energy, transport, agriculture, sustainability and more.
Language:
English
Website:
https://www.bnef.com
Episodes
Liquid Demand: Tech Solutions for Water Stress
3/20/2025
We live on an increasingly thirsty planet. Growing populations and rising demand from industry, data centers and farming have led to water stress across the globe. Even under a scenario where global warming is limited to 2C, some three billion people are projected to live in areas where water demand exceeds supply by the middle of the century. Energy-intensive desalination plants offer a solution, but what other opportunities lie in technologies that can not only increase water supply but more efficiently manage it? On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by Stephanie Diaz, a BNEF technology and innovation analyst, to discuss her recent research note “Tech Radar: Water Supply, Use and Treatment”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Tech Radar: Water Supply, Use and Treatment - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35987
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Duration:00:29:51
Hydrogen: Bucking the Low-Cost Clean Power Trend
3/12/2025
The cost of producing clean power has never been lower. Improving financial conditions and oversupply of key equipment drove costs to record lows in 2024. Yet while the levelized cost of electricity (LCOE) declined as a global average, different regions and technologies fell at different rates, and one key technology proved to be an outlier. On this episode, Dana Perkins is joined by Amar Vasdev, a senior associate from BNEF’s energy economics team, and Martin Tengler, BloombergNEF’s head of hydrogen research, to discuss findings from the flagship report “Levelized Cost of Electricity 2025: Record Lows”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Levelized Cost of Electricity 2025: Record Lows - https://www.bnef.com/flagships/lcoe
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Duration:00:32:21
Data Center Dynamics: AI and Energy Demand
3/5/2025
Energy-hungry data centers are on the rise. Power demand driven by artificial intelligence has been met by an increase in power purchase agreements (PPAs) for low-carbon energy. Meanwhile, DeepSeek has reduced demand through more efficient computations. So what is driving decision making at tech companies that work in the AI and data center space? At the 2025 BloombergNEF Summit San Francisco, Mark Daly, BNEF’s head of technology and innovation, moderated a panel titled “Data Center Dynamics.” This episode brings listeners that panel, which featured Steven Carlini, chief advocate of data centers and AI at Schneider Electric; Will Conkling, head of data center energy for the Americas and EMEA at Google; Kleber Costa, chief commercial officer at AES Corporation; and Darwesh Singh, founder and CEO at Bolt Graphics.
To learn more about BNEF’s Summits taking place around the world and to see recordings of BNEF Talks at previous Summits, head to https://about.bnef.com/summit/.
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Duration:00:36:52
Investors Bet $2 Trillion on the Energy Transition
2/27/2025
Annual investment in the energy transition has surpassed $2 trillion for the first time. Investors placed bets on renewable energy, power grids and energy storage, while buzzy emerging technologies fell out of favor. On this episode, Dana Perkins is joined by Meredith Annex, BNEF’s head of clean power, to discuss the report ‘Energy Transition Investment Trends 2025.’
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
A publicly available summary report of Energy Transition Investment Trends 2025 can be found at - https://about.bnef.com/energy-transition-investment/
BNEF subscribers can find the whole report at - https://www.bnef.com/flagships/clean-energy-investment
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Duration:00:24:08
Weather and Commodities: A Perfect Storm
2/19/2025
Little connects the natural world to our lives more tangibly than the weather. Weather impacts everything from food to energy production, and shifting weather patterns have the power to shift the economy. From wind droughts to heatwaves, utilities and commodities traders are seeking a better understanding of how enhanced weather modeling could help them predict the future. On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by BNEF weather analysts, Jess Hicks and Willa Tobin, to discuss their recent research notes “Weather and Commodities - Nine Things to Watch in 2025” and “Shifting Weather Patterns: A Black Swan for US Commodities”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Weather and Commodities - Nine Things to Watch in 2025 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35719
Shifting Weather Patterns: A Black Swan for US Commodities - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35305
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Duration:00:26:55
Bank Transition Ratios Plot Route for Decarbonization
2/12/2025
Banks are still spending less money on low-carbon solutions than on fossil-fuel projects. At last count, the energy supply ratio for bank financing was just 0.89 cents of low-carbon spend for every $1 spent on fossil fuels. That’s an improvement over previous years, but with a ratio of 4:1 by 2030 required to meet a 1.5C climate scenario, the world is still a long way from hitting that target. On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by analyst Trina White, a member of BNEF’s sustainable finance team, to discuss the third annual Energy Supply Investment and Banking Ratios”. Together they discuss worldwide and local trends in energy financing, which banks have the highest energy financing ratios, and why the average ratio is still below 1:1 even though global clean energy investment has hit a new record and surpassed fossil-fuel financing for the first time.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Third Annual Energy Supply Investment and Banking Ratios - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35765
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Duration:00:34:48
Global Wind Market Shifts as Chinese Exports Expand
2/6/2025
Chinese wind turbine makers are expanding their global footprint at an impressive rate. Leading manufacturers like Goldwind, Envision, Mingyang and Windey are exporting their turbines at a significant discount to Western incumbents, undercutting their rivals and establishing themselves in developing economies and emerging markets. Yet while the volume of their orders has risen, significant barriers to entry remain, including low brand awareness, a limited track record outside of China and political risks that are raising red flags for buyers, lenders and insurers. So just how large is the threat these Chinese manufacturers pose to established Western companies? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Oliver Metcalfe, BloombergNEF’s Head of Wind, to discuss the note “China Wind Turbine Export Update: Momentum Builds”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
China Wind Turbine Export Update: Momentum Builds - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35671/view
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Duration:00:30:45
Public to Private: The Shift in Clean Energy Ownership
1/30/2025
Over the past five years, clean energy company valuations have reached new heights. As the ESG hype cycle ends, inflated public market valuations have given way to industry fundamentals. Increasing energy demand aided by the hype around AI and data centers mean that the world needs more clean power than ever before, and project developers are requiring new sources of capital. In response, a new trend is emerging, in which public investments are shifting into private hands. On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by BloombergNEF Solar Specialist Pietro Radoia and Sustainable Finance Analyst Ryan Loughead to dive into the recent research note “Listed Clean Energy Firms: Moving Back Into Private Hands”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Listed Clean Energy Firms: Moving Back Into Private Hands - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35367
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Duration:00:22:45
Five Energy Transition Lessons for 2025
1/22/2025
Was 2024 a good or a bad year for clean energy and climate progress? Looking through one prism, we saw record global electric vehicle sales, massive clean power capacity additions, and the adoption of new energy storage technologies. Yet, if we compare these record numbers to what is actually required to achieve net zero by 2050, we find ourselves falling short. What lessons can be learned from the year gone by, and how might we apply these lessons to improve future outcomes? On today’s show, BloombergNEF’s Deputy CEO, Albert Cheung, shares his note “Five Energy Transition Lessons for 2025.”
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Five Energy Transition Lessons for 2025 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35643
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Duration:00:19:25
Energy Security in Flux: Gas Faces 2025 Stress Test
1/15/2025
This could be a challenging year for natural gas. Market dynamics are in flux, and how buyers and sellers react to the changes will make the year ahead a ‘stress test’ for the fuel and how the sector positions itself for the future. On the supply front, a rapidly shifting geopolitical landscape has had a massive bearing on the trade flows of pipeline gas and LNG. In terms of demand, heat waves and extreme weather events have inverted seasonal consumption trends. So what can we expect from 2025? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Fauziah Marzuki, BloombergNEF’s Global Head of Gas Markets, to discuss findings from her recent report “Gas Things to Watch in 2025: Crunch Time Before Comeback”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Gas Things to Watch in 2025: Crunch Time Before Comeback - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35571/view
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Duration:00:24:33
Drilling for Gold: The Hydrogen Beneath Our Feet
1/8/2025
At first glance, gold hydrogen could be a game changer. This naturally occurring molecule, which is found in reservoirs below the Earth’s surface, has the potential to be less carbon intensive and less expensive than man-made hydrogen. But all that glitters is not necessarily gold, and a myriad of factors, from possible synergies with helium extraction to ongoing technical challenges, could still tip the scales either toward or away from gold hydrogen’s economic viability. On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by Sami Alisawi from BNEF’s Hydrogen team and Musfika Mishi from BNEF’s Technology and Innovation team to discuss findings from their recent report “Technology Radar: Geologic Hydrogen”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Technology Radar: Geologic Hydrogen - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35101
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Duration:00:29:10
Japan Powers Up: Market Liberalization Sparks Interest
1/2/2025
Japan’s power market is creating a stir. Having faced natural disasters, global energy crises and ever more extreme periods of weather, the world’s third-largest liberalized power market has had to contend with some almighty challenges in recent years, and yet it has still piqued the interest of foreign investors. The long process of restarting Japan’s nuclear fleet, completely shuttered after the Fukushima disaster, has dragged on, and with little available land, utility-scale renewables have traditionally struggled to gain a foothold. To fill the energy void, the resource-poor nation has had to import coal, gas and oil to fuel its power plants. Yet the arrival of energy-intensive data centers and semiconductor manufacturing plants mean power demand is once again on the rise, and with it new opportunities for energy installations. On today’s show, Tom is joined by two analysts from BNEF’s Global Power Markets Team, Mariko O’Neil and Yumi Kim, to discuss key findings from the report “Japan Power Market Outlook 2H 2024: Tailwinds Ahead”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Japan Power Market Outlook 2H 2024: Tailwinds Ahead - https://www.bnef.com/insights/34981
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Duration:00:31:31
Splitting Atoms, Scaling AI: Big Tech’s Nuclear Gambit
12/19/2024
The boom in energy-hungry data centers in the US has led to a revival of interest in nuclear power. Small modular reactors, or SMRs, are often held up as the way forward, but the technology remains in development, which has led some big tech firms – or ‘hyperscalers’ – to explore other pathways for using nuclear power. One alternative is restarting some of the 11 nuclear facilities that have been shut in the US in the last 15 years, an option made all the more attractive given the regulatory hurdles, cost concerns and schedule overruns that tend to plague new nuclear projects. On today’s show, Tom is joined by Chris Gadomski, BloombergNEF’s lead nuclear analyst, to discuss key findings from his report “Hyperscalers’ Energy Appetite Boosts Nuclear Prospects”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Hyperscalers' Energy Appetite Boosts Nuclear Prospects - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35223
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Duration:00:28:42
Getting Real: Net Zero Isn’t Enough for Fortescue
12/12/2024
The world is focused on net zero. Yet some companies, like Australian mining giant Fortescue, have set their sights higher, and are now aiming for ‘real zero’. On today’s show, we bring you an interview from the recent BNEF Summit Shanghai, where Fortescue Founder and Executive Chairman Andrew Forrest sat down with Leonard Quong, BNEF’s Head of Australia Research, to talk about green hydrogen, green iron ore, and why real zero is good for people, the planet and the bottom line.
Today’s episode was recorded live at BNEF Summit Shanghai. To learn more about our Summits and to listen to more interviews, please visit https://about.bnef.com/summit/
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Duration:00:22:05
Under the Hood of Emerging Markets’ Energy Transition
12/5/2024
Emerging markets have big plans when it comes to the energy transition. Today, 95% of developing economies have a renewable energy target in place, and many of them are seeing massive growth in solar and other renewable power technologies. Yet this clean power revolution won’t come cheap. While EMDEs attracted more than $100 billion for clean energy development last year, that’s a drop in the bucket of what it’ll take to reach net zero, and many markets are racing to implement the policy and infrastructure needed to attract many billions more. On today’s show, BloombergNEF researchers Sofia Maia and Ana Paula Fonseca Teixeira present the newest edition of Climatescope, a public BNEF resource that evaluates and ranks emerging markets’ readiness to utilize energy transition investment.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Climatescope 2024 - www.global-climatescope.org
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Duration:00:20:45
Climate-Tech Finance: India Surges, China Slumps
11/27/2024
Climate-tech funding is falling precipitously. During the third quarter of 2024, worldwide investment in the sector reached just $10.3 billion, a far cry from the $22.6 billion raised in the third quarter of 2023 and the $40.9 billion seen in 3Q 2022. These dramatic declines have been led in part by manufacturing overcapacity in China, where a collapse in market funding has allowed India to supersede China for the first time in BloombergNEF’s climate-tech rankings. With protectionism on the rise, questions have also arisen about how tariffs will impact equity funding moving forward, but where some see barriers, others see opportunities. On today’s show, Dana is joined by Mark Daly, BloombergNEF’s Head of Technology and Innovation, to discuss key findings from the recent report “Investment Radar 3Q 2024: Funding Drop Again”.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Investment Radar 3Q 2024: Funding Drop Again - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35203/view
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Duration:00:28:01
Burning Issue: Peak Coal Close But Demand Lingers
11/20/2024
“It looks like coal weather today,” is an unlikely forecast, but it shouldn’t be. Coal production and consumption are linked to weather, and the return of a La Niña weather cycle has the potential to extend the lifespan of coal power assets and influence fuel switching. While peak coal demand is close, near-term drivers point to stagnation rather than a rapid decline. Developed economies are shutting thermal power assets at scale, but China is responsible for 56% of global coal consumption and continues to import and stockpile coal in vast quantities.
On today’s show, Dana is joined by Fauziah Marzuki, BloombergNEF’s Global Head of Gas Markets, alongside Yumi Kim, Power Markets Associate, to discuss key findings from their recent report Coal Outlook: Hot and Cold to 2050.
Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEFbnef.com
Links to research notes from this episode:
Coal Outlook: Hot and Cold to 2050 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35205
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Duration:00:37:04