The Watch

Andy is joined by Sean Fennessey to talk about the first few episodes of ‘Say Nothing’ and how the show works because it lives in a moral gray area (1:00). Then they briefly discuss the finale of ‘Disclaimer’ and why the series might have worked better as a film (31:56) before talking about the first episode of ‘Dune: Prophecy’ and why this prequel series is not working so far (42:43). Host: Andy Greenwald Guest: Sean Fennessey Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris talks about the news that 'X-Men' director Simon Kinberg has been tapped to write and produce a new ‘Star Wars’ trilogy and questions whether or not this project will ever come to fruition, or just join the other ‘Star Wars’ projects that Disney announced and subsequently canned (1:00). He is then joined by author Patrick Radden Keefe to talk about adapting his book 'Say Nothing,' which delves into the troubles in Northern Ireland, as a series for FX (16:36) and the challenges that come with translating such a dense historical time period to the screen (29:05). Host: Chris Ryan Guest: Patrick Radden Keefe Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some of the TV they've been consuming while in London, including Jamie Oliver's cooking show (1:00). Then they discuss the new 'Day of the Jackal' series, a remake of the 1973 film, and why it ends up just feeling like filler for Peacock (9:53). Finally, they talk about the most recent few episodes of 'Disclaimer' and why the show ultimately did not work, even though it has the star power of Alfonso Cuarón and Cate Blanchett behind it (33:11). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris is joined by Joanna Robinson to talk about ‘Say Nothing’ getting released all at once on Hulu and where that leaves us in the binge vs. week-to-week war (1:05), the sixth and final season of ‘What We Do in the Shadows’ (17:07), and some of her favorite U.K. TV at the moment, including ‘Rivals’ (24:09). Then, Chris is joined by Van Lathan to talk about their shared passion for ‘Special Ops: Lioness’ and why the show has leveled up in it’s second season (32:50). Host: Chris Ryan Guests: Joanna Robinson and Van Lathan Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about a new feature that Netflix is rolling out called “Moments” that allows users to capture and share scenes from their favorite shows in an effort to boost fan-driven marketing (1:00). Then they discuss the news that Peacock lost more than $400 million last quarter despite its popular Olympics coverage and what that means for the streamer and its parent company, Comcast (25:43). Finally, in honor of the upcoming election, they talk about some of their favorite TV presidents, including Jed Bartlet on ‘The West Wing’ and Laura Roslin on ‘Battlestar Galactica’ (41:00). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some TV news, including the announcement of the ‘Beef’ Season 2 cast (1:00) and the release of the trailer for the new Michael Schur show, ‘A Man on the Inside’ (10:05). Then they discuss the first two episodes of ‘Special Ops: Lioness’ Season 2 and whether the show is just "military porn" or something more interesting (14:11). Finally, in honor of Halloween week, they talk about some of their favorite terror TV shows, including ‘Teacup’ and ‘Channel Zero,’ and why horror TV is so hard to make (38:21). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Burgeoning Independent TV Industry. Plus, the ‘Severance’ S2 Trailer Is Finally Here! Chris and Andy talk about the trailers for ‘Severance’ Season 2 (0:00) and ‘Say Nothing,’ which were released this week (1:00). Then they talk about two recent independently made shows—‘Penelope’ from Mark Duplass and ‘Shatter Belt’ from James Ward Byrkit (21:08)—and how this burgeoning independent TV industry compares to the independent movie scene of the ’90s (37:40). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some of their weekend watches (1:00) and revisiting ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’ and not remembering how enmeshed the movie was in greater Marvel lore (11:53). Then they talk about the most recent episodes of ‘Disclaimer,’ and how the show seems specifically tailored to fit a vision that Apple has for its streaming service (21:38), and ‘The Rivals,’ a new raunchy British comedy on Disney+ (34:56). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy discuss whether TV shows need more entry points, using their complicated feelings about ‘The Penguin’ as an example (02:21). Then, they talk about the Season 1 finale of ‘The English Teacher’ (28:45). Plus, Chris tells Andy about ‘Tell Me Lies’ (35:12) and discusses how it compares to shows like ‘Grey’s Anatomy.’ Finally, they talk about some upcoming shows, like ‘Krypto the Dog,’ an English adaptation of ‘The Bureau,’ and ‘Black Doves’ (50:18). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Devon Baroldi and Olivia Crerie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about ‘Rebel Ridge,’ a movie that was released recently on Netflix that they both enjoyed (1:00), and ‘Disclaimer,’ the new Apple TV+ series from acclaimed director Alfonso Cuarón and starring Cate Blanchett (18:07). Then they are joined by Timothy Simons to talk about his role on ‘Nobody Wants This’ (36:15) and the benefits of making such an L.A.-centered show (49:17). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Timothy Simons Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy hit on some news from the week including the trailer for the Bob Dylan biopic 'A Complete Unknown' and Christopher Nolan eyeing Matt Damon to star in his next movie (1:00). Then they talk about the season finale of 'Slow Horses' and why they felt more lukewarm on this season compared to past ones (12:23), before talking about the premiere of the latest Armando Iannucci comedy 'The Franchise' and how it may have worked better as a workplace drama (33:03). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris talks about his experience at the Pavement reunion concert this week, which happened in honor of the documentary about them that premiered at the New York Film Festival (1:00). Then he and Andy talk about the new rom-com series 'Nobody Wants This,' starring Kristen Bell and Adam Brody (18:50). Later, they answer a few mailbag questions about the third season of 'Industry' and what might be in store for the fourth (38:00). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy break down the finale of 'Industry' and talk about where we end up finding each of the characters after a season of drugs, gambling, and insider trading (1:00). Then they are joined by creators Konrad Kay and Mickey Down to talk about why they try to write toward fear with this show (34:44), their experience directing the last two episodes (47:33), and the way class ended up playing a bigger role than money this season (54:24). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guests: Konrad Kay and Mickey Down Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the trailer for 'The Last of Us' Season 2 that was released this week (1:00), the new Natasha Rothwell comedy 'How to Die Alone' (23:07), and the latest episode of 'Slow Horses' (37:44). Then they are joined by Brian Jordan Alvarez to talk about the making of his series 'English Teacher' and how veteran comedy TV writer Paul Simms helped him bring it to the screen (49:32). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Brian Jordan Alvarez Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the first episode of 'The Penguin,' which, despite its star power and high production value, unfortunately feels like another IP slog (1:00). Then they break down 'Industry' S3E7 and discuss whether the show's ultimate question is if any of the characters will be willing or able to break free (26:57). They are then joined by Ken Leung to talk about Eric's betrayal of Adler in this episode and the discoveries he makes as an actor while working on the show (52:25). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Ken Leung Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that Nicole Kidman will be starring in yet another series for Amazon and why she seems to be so prevalent in prestige TV right now (1:00). Then they talk about the first two episodes of ‘Agatha All Along’ and how the campiness and lightness of the show is what Marvel television needs right now (13:49). Finally, they recap the latest episode of ‘Slow Horses’ (37:07). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy recap last night's Emmys ceremony, discussing how they felt about the overall broadcast itself (1:00) and whether or not it really matters whether ‘The Bear’ runs in the comedy category (16:28). Then they break down the latest episode of ‘Industry,’ talking about Harper and Yasmin’s face-off and Eric’s continued downward spiral (40:18). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some entertainment news from the week, including a New York Times article that revealed more details about the power struggle between Bob Iger and Bob Chapek at Disney (1:00) and a Hollywood Reporter article that asked whether or not big-budget adaptations like ‘House of the Dragon’ and ‘Rings of Power’ will ever be able to fully satisfy fans (22:03). Then they recap this week’s episode of ‘Slow Horses’ (33:25), before Chris is joined by Touché Amoré’s Jeremy Bolm to talk about the making of the band’s forthcoming album, ‘Spiral in a Straight Line’ (44:05). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Jeremy Bolm Producer: Kaya McMullen Read the New York Times article here. Read the Hollywood Reporter article here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris gives you your fall TV night lineup, including shows like the new Adam Pally comedy 'Mr. Throwback' and the BBC cop drama 'Blue Lights' (1:00). Then, Chris and Andy break down the latest episode of 'Industry,' talking about how Rob has emerged as one of the few people to root for this season (17:38) and the imagery and themes that were present throughout this episode (35:57). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about a blog post George R.R. Martin wrote criticizing the changes 'House of the Dragon' made to the book (1:00) and discuss Rolling Stone's recently released 100 best TV episodes of all time list (17:15). Then they talk about the new FX comedy 'English Teacher' and what makes the show a "bread-and-butter" sitcom (22:35). Finally, they talk about the premiere of Season 4 of 'Slow Horses,' streaming TV's most reliable drama (32:45). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices