Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

Did the Giants signing Russell Wilson give us a hint as to what the Browns are planning to do with the second pick in the NFL Draft? That’s what at least one of our Football Insider subscribers was wondering on today’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from our subscribers on the latest edition of the podcast. They discuss Wilson signing with the Giants, the Browns working out Cam Ward and if they should trade up for him and talk through some of the other options for the Browns in the draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

NFL Draft silly season in full form and, as long as the Browns are a candidate to pick quarterback Shedeur Sanders at No. 2 overall, they’ll be right in the middle of it. It happened on Monday when a social media rumor circulated about Deion Sanders and comments he likely didn’t make at a convention last week. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk draft season in 2025 and the world of high-profile quarterbacks. They also talk about Cam Ward’s pro day and if the Browns should consider making an offer to the Titans to move up to No. 1 overall before they get into more Internet rumors: Would the 49ers really trade Brandon Aiyuk? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The NFL Draft is a month away and the Browns are setting out on the pro day circuit this week to get an up-close look at the quarterbacks in this draft. With the veteran quarterback market slowly starting to take shape and a draft decision awaiting the Browns, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took an opportunity to reset the quarterback market on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about where things stand in the draft and free agency and how the market will develop over the next month for both the rookies and the veterans. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns currently hold the second pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, but should they think about moving up to the No. 1 overall pick? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that idea and more in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Wednesday. Then they turn their attention to the potential of adding Carson Wentz as another veteran option this season. Do they prefer Wentz over Flacco? Is it as crazy an idea as it sounds? They also discuss the 2016 trade the Browns made with the Eagles allowing them to draft Wentz and also get into the future of Jedrick Wills Jr. and if he could return to Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A week into free agency seems like the perfect time to re-assess the Browns roster with the draft five weeks away. Where do things look good? Where do the Browns need help? Will they get it in the draft? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe go through the roster on Tuesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They go through the positions where the Browns might need the most help and try to determine if those positions are in good enough shape heading into the season. They even spend a little time talking about Nick Chubb and if the Browns should consider bringing him back now that the market for him is slow to develop. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We know the Browns are very much in the quarterback market and the game of veteran quarterback musical chairs is in full swing right now. Even Jameis Winston is getting involved with a visit to the Giants on Monday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take a look at the quarterback market and where things stand and reset where the Browns are at on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They lay out some of the veteran options that are still available and what the Browns' approach is telling us about their draft plans. Then, they talk about the Browns' options in the draft and Mary Kay throws out an idea that not many have discussed to this point. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett held a press conference on Friday after agreeing to a record extension on Sunday and deciding to stick with the Browns after requesting a trade in February. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about Garrett’s press conference on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They get into the message Garrett trided to deliver about why he requested the trade and what changed to lead him to signing the extension — and why he said it wasn’t about the money. They also talk about the work he has to do to repair his relationship with the fans and why they don’t think he’ll regret staying in Cleveland, if he doesn’t win a Super Bowl. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New Browns quarterback Kenny Pickett said on Thursday he believes he’s still a starting quarterback in the NFL and he’s here to compete to start. It had at least one of our Football Insider subscribers nervous Pickett would end up starting. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talked about Pickett and the plan with him on Thursday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about the Browns' plan for the makeup of the quarterback room and how Pickett fits into the plan. They also get into the plan with the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft and if the Browns have to take a quarterback and what it would look like if they didn’t and if waiting until next year to solve quarterback is a better plan. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are having free agent quarterback Russell Wilson in for a visit on Thursday, an intriguing development on the quarterback front and one that could impact their plans with the draft approaching. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the possibility of the Browns signing Russell Wilson on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about if it’s as crazy an idea as people are making it seem on social media. Then they get into what it could mean for what the Browns do at the No. 2 overall pick and finding a rookie quarterback. They also spend some time talking about Kirk Cousins and what’s going on with the Falcons quarterback. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns had a quiet first day of the NFL’s legal tampering period, agreeing to acquire Kenny Pickett from the Eagles and planning to move on from defensive tackle Dalvin Tomlinson. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together on Monday night and discussed the early part of free agency and the moves the Browns made on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. What was the thinking in acquiring Pickett and what will his role be on the team? What’s next at quarterback? What did today tell us about the Browns' approach this offseason if anything, and what do we expect to happen over the next few days, including when the new league year begins on Wednesday afternoon? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Myles Garrett agreed to a record-breaking contract extension on Sunday, ending the saga surrounding his trade request and locking Garrett in through 2030. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the record-setting extension on an emergency edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about what changed between Jimmy Haslam refusing to meet with Garrett and the agreement on this extension before they get into how much credit GM Andrew Berry deserves for this and what’s next for Garrett and the Browns. They also get into the quarterback situation now that the Garrett situation is resolved and what they think the Browns should do there as they work their way towards the 2025 season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett requested a meeting with owner Jimmy Haslam about his ongoing trade request and Haslam rebuffed him. It’s the latest in the saga of Garrett’s trade request and the Browns holding firm in the face of Garrett wanting out. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into the ongoing saga of Myles Garrett’s trade request from the Cleveland Browns. They discuss the implications of Jimmy Haslam’s decision to defer to Andrew Berry and not meet with Garrett. Does Haslam owe Garrett a meeting? Did he do the right thing? They also ask if all of this drama is worth it? Would it be in the Browns’ best interests to just give in and trade him? Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns restructured Deshaun Watson’s contract on Thursday to help get them cap compliant and free up some room for the offseason. It came a day after they got the good news that Joel Bitonio will be back for another season. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Watson’s contract restructure and the team’s roster goals for the upcoming season They also talk about the future of Nick Chubb and why the Browns are letting him hit the market and if it’s the right move before they delve into the future of Elijah Moore and the plan at receiver. Then they get into the implications of Bitonio’s return and what it means before they veer into veteran quarterback options and if they think the Browns should bring back Joe Flacco. Approximate time stamps: 0:00 Deshaun Watson’s Contract Restructure 2:52 Browns' Roster Goals and Free Agency Plans 5:48 Nick Chubb’s Future with the Browns 9:10 Elijah Moore’s Performance and Potential Departure 27:48 Joel Bitonio’s Return: A Positive Sign for the Browns 39:52 Quarterback Options: Looking Ahead Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

NFL Draft season means rumor season and the rumors are flying about the Browns' potential No. 2 pick, Shedeur Sanders. It has been reported this week that a quarterback coach who was in a team interview with Sanders didn’t like his attitude. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the report and more on the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss how they view reports like this and what it means about Sanders as he comes in for a visit with the Browns this week. Then they talk about Cam Ward and if the Browns should consider moving up to No. 1 to have a shot to select Ward in the draft. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will venture into free agency next week when the new league year opens on March 12, two days after the legal tampering period begins. One of the positions they will look to fill is quarterback, searching a for a veteran likely to pair with a rookie. What options could they explore? Mary Kay Cabot answers that question in the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay and Dan talk through some of the options. They also talk about last week’s NFL Combine and what they took away from it and what matters in the draft process and answer questions about the NFLPA team report cards, Myles Garrett and more. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are back in the quarterback market so quarterback day at the NFL Combine matters once again with the draft less than two months away. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe listened to the quarterbacks talk on Friday and then recorded the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by talking about the top two prospects and the contrasts in their personalities and playing styles. How do Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders fit with the Browns? Is one a better option than the other? Then they get into some of the players who make up the rest of this year’s class. Should the Browns draft Will Howard? What about Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe? They get into all of it and more. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Myles Garrett have reached a potential inflection point in their standoff, with Garrett and his camp not interested in negotiating an extension. It’s another twist in the saga between the two sides. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the latest on the Garrett vs. the Browns situation on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine. They talk about what this means and if this is what could cause the Browns to decide to trade Garrett. They also talk about what could have happened between the two sides and the role Klutch Sports plays in all of this. They also talk about the team building impact of trading Garrett and if it would change their view on how the Browns approach this offseason. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns — and Kevin Stefanski — did not fare well on the NFLPA’s 2025 report card. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine by talking about why Stefanski and the Browns graded so poorly, what they can and can’t understand and what the Browns should do about it. First, they spend some time on Kevin Stefanski backing up GM Andrew Berry on hanging on to Myles Garrett after his trade request. Then they get into Deshaun Watson rehabbing in Cleveland and what it says about Watson and the Browns and how this will play out. They wrap up the podcast by getting into Stefanski’s glowing comments about this year’s quarterback draft class. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns GM Andrew Berry spoke on Tuesday for the first time since Myles Garrett went public with his trade request and, unsurprisingly, Berry held his ground in regards to the request. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss what Berry had to say about Garrett and more on their Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine. They also talk about Berry acknowledging that running back Nick Chubb will hit free agency and tryied to pick through the crumbs of what he said to see if he gave any hints about the team’s free agency or draft plans. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are confident that if they get quarterback figured out, they can start winning again, so when a quarterback like Matthew Stafford might be available, it’s incumbent on the Browns to inquire. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe took a break from scrambling to get ready to leave for the NFL Scouting Combine on Monday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast to talk about the Browns and Stafford and if the Browns really should get aggressive in going after Stafford and if they could actually land him. They also talk about the release of safety Juan Thornhill and what’s next at the position and who needs to step up. Lastly, they discuss Shedeur Sanders not throwing at the Combine and whether they expect Cam Ward to do the same and why it does — or doesn’t — matter. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices