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The sports media experts at the New York Post and Sports Business Journal have teamed up for a new weekly podcast about sports media. It will cover and discuss the business beyond the buzzer: the hottest headlines, best/worst of the week, network deals, ratings, trends - everything you need to know inside sports media, with the most informed reporters in sports media, brought to you by New York Post and Sports Business Journal. New episodes every Wednesday.


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The sports media experts at the New York Post and Sports Business Journal have teamed up for a new weekly podcast about sports media. It will cover and discuss the business beyond the buzzer: the hottest headlines, best/worst of the week, network deals, ratings, trends - everything you need to know inside sports media, with the most informed reporters in sports media, brought to you by New York Post and Sports Business Journal. New episodes every Wednesday.




Sports Media Podcast: Apple TV+ lead voice Taylor Twellman, NBA All-Star Weekend look back and Olympics look ahead

On this week’s pod, we get you set for the start of the MLS season. SBJ’s Austin Karp is joined by Apple TV+ lead MLS voice Taylor Twellman to talk about the upcoming season. The duo discuss the “Messi Effect” and the storylines to keep an eye on this season. SBJ’s Alex Silverman also chimes in with what he is taking a look at as the Major League Soccer season kicks off. Later in the pod, SBJ’s Rachel Axon talks up expectations for the Paris Olympics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 126: Super Bowl's Broken Record, NBA All-Star Game, NASCAR president Steve Phelps, and Fox Analyst Clint Bowyer

In this Valentine's Day edition of the Sports Media Podcast from the New York Post and Sports Business Journal, SBJ's Austin Karp puts a bow on the Chiefs Super Bowl victory and the Big Game's record-breaking audience numbers. With the Daytona 500 right around the corner, SBJ's Adam Stern, NASCAR President Steve Phelps and NASCAR on Fox analyst Clint Bowyer drop in to talk about what to expect in the "Great American Race" as well as the new Netflix series, "Full Speed." And with the NBA All-Star Game set for the Indianapolis, SBJ's Tom Friend holds court on the the league's media landscape and his expectation from the festivities in the Circle City. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 125: Super Bowl LVIII is upon us plus Big Get Guests Harold Bryant of CBS and Fred Gaudelli of Amazon and NBC Sports

On this week's pod, 57 Emmy Awards worth of Super Bowl insight. First SBJ's Austin Karp is joined by Ben Fischer from Las Vegas talk the upcoming Super Bowl. The duo discuss reaction to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell's definitive answer on if the Super Bowl's streaming future and other things that have stood out leading up to the Super Bowl. Later in the show CBS Executive Producer and Executive VP, Production, Harold Bryant joins to talk about what we can expect from the entire Paramount family for the Super Bowl and then Fred Gaudelli, Executive Producer of NBC’s “Sunday Night Football and Thursday Night Football on Prime Video joins to give insight on how he is viewing this year's Super Bowl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 124: Super Bowl matchup set, NHL All-Star Game heads north, and the Taylor Swift Effect

New name, same great information. In this week's Sports Media Podcast from the New York Post and Sports Business Journal, SBJ's Austin Karp reacts to the Super Bowl matchup between the Chiefs and 49ers with SBJ Football Writer Ben Fischer. The duo also discuss Who's Up and Who's Down in Sports Media, the NFL Pro Bowl, and Super Bowl Opening Night. SBJs's Alex Silverman also joins Karp to talk about the upcoming NHL All-Star Game in Toronto and how some NHL RSNs are finding success in surprising ways. All of this plus Karp's Corner takes a deeper look into the "Taylor Swift effect." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 123: WWE/Netflix, NBA impact, NFL bonker ratings and Tony Romo

Episode 123: On this week's pod, Andrew Marchand is joined by Sports Business Journal's Austin Karp to discuss the $5 billion WWE deal with Netflix and what it means for the future of sports rights. The duo discuss the impact of the agreement on the NBA's forthcoming broadcast negotiations. They also highlight the bonkers NFL TV ratings, while wading into Tony Romo and Jim Nantz' struggles on their broadcasts. Plus, they pick their "Who's up" and "Who's down" of the week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 122: NFL-ESPN deal, Stephen A. & McAfee talk with special guest host Michael Smith.

Andrew Marchand and guest host Amazon Prime Video/NBC/Peacock's Michael Smith talk about the current state of media, including the NFL's advanced talks with Disney/ESPN about an equity stake in the network in exchange for NFL Media. The two go into the current state of affairs involving ESPN, Pat McAfee, Stephen A. Smith and Jason Whitlock. All that, and each host gives his "Who's up" and "Who's down" for the week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 121: Pat McAfee, Peacock and NFL with guest host Chris (Mad Dog) Russo

On this week's edition, Christopher (Mad Dog) Russo is the guest host, joining Andrew Marchand. Marchand and Russo go into full detail about McAfee, Aaron Rodgers and Norby Williamson. They also dissect ESPN's reaction to McAfee calling Williamson, one of the top executives at the company, a "rat." Marchand and Russo look at the Peacock playoff game that will be exclusively streamed, pitting the Chiefs and the Dolphins. Sports Business Journal's Austin Karp joins the show to discuss how ESPN presented McAfee's ratings and to play the old Mike & the Mad Dog game of guessing the ratings. Plus, Russo goes into First Take and Stephen A. Smith's impact on his career. Plus, Russo joins Marchand in offering his "Who's up" and "Who's Down" with a classic Mad Dog spin on it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 120: Guest co-host Joe Buck on Al Michaels, Tom Brady and his Fox reunion

On this week's Marchand and Ourand podcast, Joe Buck is the guest co-host with Andrew Marchand. John Ourand is off to Puck. Marchand and Buck both give their Who's up and Who's Down of the week. The duo discuss Buck's reunion with his Fox family at Jimmy Johnson's Ring of Honor ceremony in Dallas, what Tom Brady will be facing, why Buck and Troy Aikman have that is hard to replace, how Al Michaels has been treated by NBC, Bucks' father's Jack being fired in airport by CBS Radio, Buck's feelings on baseball and what makes a great final call. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 119: Sports media 2024

On this week’s Marchand and Ourand Sports Media Podcast Hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand preview the biggest sports media stories of 2024. The includes the return of Marchand’s “Brady Meter,” which gives the odds on whether Hall of Fame QB Tom Brady will call a game as Fox’s top NFL analyst. The two also discuss to options for Greg Olsen, the analyst Brady is replacing. Other topics include predictions about the NBA’s media rights deal, which is expected to be completed in the first part of 2024; ESPN’s direct-to-consumer plans, which are expected to come at some point in 2025; Disney’s push to find investors for ESPN next year; and the likely outcome from all the chaos surround regional sports networks right now. Other topics include: Streaming company strategies, the Paris Olympics, the CFP media negotiations and Orioles broadcaster Kevin Brown. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 118: The power of Stephen A Smith; Can Amazon save the RSNs; and John Ourand’s long goodbye

Andrew Marchand published a list of the 25 most powerful people in sports media this year. Stephen A. Smith topped the list, followed by Lionel Messi, CBS’ Sean McManus, ESPN’s Jimmy Pitaro and Fox Sports’ Eric Shanks. Hosts Marchand and John Ourand debated the executives and talent who should be on the list; the ones who should be off the list; and the ones that were placed too high or too low. The two then talked about the repercussions from having Amazon potentially invest in the bankrupt RSN company, Diamond Sports Group. Marchand and Ourand handicapped the NBA talks and broke down Josh Krulewitz’ big promotion to run ESPN’s comms team. Ourand ended the pod by discussing his decision to move from SBJ to Puck Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 117: NBA, NFL, Al Michaels, Shohei Ohtani and Karp’s Korner

On this episode of the Marchand & Ourand Sports Media podcast, hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand offer their best projections about who will wind up with NBA rights. Marchand & Ourand also give a behind-the-scenes account of what actually transpired when the NFL decided to flex a game into “Monday Night Football.” Marchand gives all the information surrounding his scoop that NBC will use Ian Eagle – and not Al Michaels – in the booth for one of its NFL playoff games. The hosts discuss the controversies around inaccurate reports about Shohei Ohtani’s free agency, including one from MLB Network’s Jon Morosi, who mistakenly reported that Ohtani was on a plane to Toronto. Ourand talks about how the most team-friendly RSN deal in the country allowed the Dodgers to afford Ohtani’s monster contract. SBJ’s Austin Karp joins for another installment of Karp’s Korner, where he talks about the television success of the NBA’s In-Season Tournament and the NFL’s regular season. As always, Marchand and Ourand tell listener’s who’s up and who’s down in sports media this week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 116: TV’s impact on the CFP, NFL, NBA and MLB

As college football readies for the CFP and the NFL enters the final stage of its season, hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand look into the biggest media stories in both sports. For college football, that includes the CFP, the end of the Pac-12 conference and the final SEC on CBS telecast. With the NFL, Marchand and Ourand dissect the NFL’s decision to use flex scheduling on for “Monday Night Football,” and they analyze Amazon’s record-setting viewership for the Seahawks-Cowboys game. Marchand and Ourand devote a topic to the NBA’s on-going media rights negotiations. Marchand looks into how MLB Network is treating MLB’s Winter Meetings. And Ourand explains why the DirecTV-Tegna carriage battle is so important to the sports media business. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 115: NFL Feast, NBA In-Season and SI’s AI dilemma

The NFL set a viewership record on Thanksgiving Day across CBS, Fox and NBC. It also kicked-off the first Black Friday game in its history, which was carried on Amazon Prime. Pod hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand discuss the league’s media dominance and whether Black Friday will follow that trajectory. Now that the NBA is through the round-robin part of its In-Season Tournament, Marchand and Ourand dissect what they like and don’t like about the tournament and whether it has the staying power to be one of the NBA’s tent-pole events. Two of the most controversial sports media stories of the last two weeks made it onto the pod’s list of topics this week. One is the Futurism report that Sports Illustrated had been using AI-generated stories and AI-generated bylines without properly alerting readers. The other is Charissa Thompson’s comments to the “Pardon My Take” podcast that she used to make up sideline reports when she wasn’t able to track down a coach. This week also sees the return of the “MandO Mailbag.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 114: The Big Get Jay Marine of Amazon on the NBA, NFL and future of sports

The head of Amazon’s global sports Jay Marine joins the pod this week to discuss Amazon’s sports strategy and how the company uses sports to grow its Prime Video business. Marine opens up to hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand about Amazon’s NBA negotiations, saying that Amazon wants to have meaningful games – including playoffs – on Amazon Prime. Marine also provides updates on Amazon’s negotiations to get NASCAR rights and CFP rights, and offers a preview to what viewers can expect during the first Black Friday game. Marchand and Ourand offer their picks for who is up in sports media, and who is down in sports media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 113: The Big Get Eli Manning, ESPN’s DTC bet, Netflix’s NBA plan and Al Michaels’ future

Disney CEO Bob Iger recently announced the year – 2025 – when ESPN will take its main cable channel direct-to-consumer. Host Andrew Marchand, who has reported on 2025 as the date for a couple of years, and John Ourand discuss what needs to happen before the 2025 launch date. The two hosts identify storylines that should develop over the next two years, as it heads direct-to-consumer. In light of SBJ’s report on Netflix’s interest in the NBA’s In-Season Tournament, Marchand and Ourand discuss Netflix’s aspirations to invest in live sports. The hosts also dive into Marchand’s exclusive interview with Al Michaels and talk about the future of the broadcasting legend. Former NFL legend and current TV star Eli Manning joins the podcast as The Big Get and addresses how his brother Peyton Manning convinced him to do the “ManningCast” and when he knew that the Monday night show would be a success. Manning also dives into how he dealt with the media as a star quarterback in New York, what he learned from Derek Jeter when talking with the media and who his media influences were in his younger days. Manning also discusses the 2-8 New York Giants and offers suggestions on how his former team can improve. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 112: The NBA’s local solution, MLB’s offseason to-do list and The Big Get Mike McCarley on his and Tiger Woods new venture

The NBA agreed to a deal with the bankrupt company Diamond Sports Group, which runs the Bally Sports-branded regional sports networks. Hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand discuss how that deal affects the 15 NBA teams that have Diamond deals; how the deal could impact the league’s national TV negotiations; and what the deal means for Diamond Sports. Marchand and Ourand also discuss how MLB will approach its off-season from a sports media standpoint and look into the takeaways from its ultra successful Chiefs-Dolphins game in Germany last weekend. Mike McCarley, the founder and CEO of TMRW Sports and TGL, joins the pod as The Big Get this week and tells the story about how Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and he decided to launch this venture. McCarley details what viewers should expect when it launches in January on ESPN. A long-time veteran of the sports media business, McCarley details the current market for sports media rights and offers his two cents on the LIV Golf controversy that took over the sport this summer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 111: NFL problems, World Series problems, Ballys problems and streaming problems

YouTubeTV experienced a lot of streaming problems on Sunday, and Bally Sports’ app was not working on Monday night. Co-hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand dive into what those two problems say about where and how streaming fits into the current state of sports media. In other topics, Marchand and Ourand offer their predictions on the NBA’s next rights deal, talk about MLB’s success this season regardless of World Series ratings and dive into MLS post-season run on AppleTV+. Marchand discusses the sports media listening tour he took last week in Minnesota, where local fans had a lot of opinions about how much they would pay to stream their teams’ games. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 110: DirecTV’s Rob Thun on the future of sports media, and Fox’s Joe Davis is The Big Get

DirecTV’s top content executive Rob Thun joins the pod as co-host this week to discuss the problems regional sports networks are having today and talk about how the satellite operator plans to handle local sports rights in the future. Thun tells co-host John Ourand how some of the local broadcast deals some teams have made aren’t as good as they seem, and he calls on network groups to work more closely with DirecTV as they push out direct-to-consumer services. This is the first time in nearly 30 years that DirecTV is not carrying the NFL Sunday Ticket package, and Thun talks about why he made the decision to pass on it. The voice of baseball for Fox, Joe Davis, joins the pod as The Big Get and talks about how his preparation for the upcoming World Series differs from how he prepared for his first one last year. Davis gets into how the pitch clock affected how he called games this season; what it’s like to call games in Philadelphia; why so many young play-by-players are calling games nowadays; how he got started in the business; and the difference between a Texas chop and a Baltimore chop. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 109: ESPN’s streaming plans, Pat McAfee and sports rights predictions

As rumors about ESPN’s streaming plans continue to swirl around, hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand separate fact from fiction. They look at the types of companies that would be interested in taking an ownership stake in ESPN and discuss the timing for when ESPN takes its main network – the mothership – direct-to-consumer. Other topics have the hosts handicapping expected winners in the rights negotiations happening with the NBA, NASCAR and College Football Play. They discuss Marchand’s report of Pat McAfee paying guests and offer a review of the MLB playoffs so far. Marchand and Ourand offer a tribute to the retiring NHL analyst Barry Melrose. And they talk about Chris LaPlaca, ESPN’s long-time communications executive who announced his retirement this week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 108: The CFP auction, MLB post-season and more Taylor Swift talk

Negotiations for the College Football Playoff’s media rights negotiations have starts, and pod hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand break down the media companies that will be involved and the likely winners once the CFP expands to add at least four more games. The hosts discuss the NFL’s request to have TV networks run ads for Taylor Swift’s upcoming movie and preview what to expect this week when Travis Kelce’s Kansas City Chiefs play on Thursday. As the NBA preps for a media rights negotiation, Marchand and Ourand look into what leagues can do to make their regular season games more valuable. This week’s episode sees the return of Karp’s Korner, as SBJ’s ratings guru Austin Karp breaks down MLB’s regular season ratings, provides an update on MLB’s post-season ratings and previews what to expect with MLB’s World Series ratings. Karp provides the reasons why national numbers are lagging local viewership trends in the sport. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit