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The news you need to know today — and the stories that will stick with you tomorrow. Plus, special series and behind-the-scenes extras from Here & Now hosts Robin Young, Scott Tong and Deepa Fernandes with help from Producer Chris Bentley and the team at NPR and WBUR.






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Anti-LGBTQ rhetoric during Pride Month; Scripps National Spelling Bee winner

After passing in the House, the debt ceiling bill has landed before the Senate. Now, the Senate is rushing to pass it before Monday. NBC's Scott Wong and Radio Iowa's Kay Henderson join us. And, June is LGBTQ Pride Month, but anti-LGBTQ sentiment is harshing many celebrations. We speak with Tuck Woodstock, journalist, educator and host of the "Gender Reveal" podcast. Then, 14-year-old Dev Shah won the Scripps National Spelling Bee, beating hundreds of other spellers. The eighth grader joins us to talk about the victory.


Summer grilling recipes; Activist challenges Uganda's new anti-LGBTQ law

Kasha Jacqueline Nabagesera, a founding mother of the LGBTQ rights movement in Uganda, talks about her challenge to Uganda's new law that calls for the death penalty for some gay people. And, MSNBC's Ali Velshi, discusses Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data that shows fewer babies were born in the U.S. in 2022 compared to the year before. Then, as another summer grilling season begins, resident chef Kathy Gunst has new recipes to share. Plus, Samantha Brown, host of her travel series "Places to Love" on PBS, shares her tips and tricks to plan a successful summer getaway.


The history of spy animals; 'Blue Ribbon Kitchen' offers award-winning recipes

Recycling plastic creates microplastics that contaminate the air and water, a new study found. Grist reporter Joseph Winters joins us to talk about what this means amid a pollution crisis. And, an alleged Russian spy has surfaced in the waters of Sweden. The spy, Hvaldimir, is a beluga whale. There is a long history of animals being used for espionage in military conflict, and Manchester Metropolitan University lecturer Gervase Phillips joins us to unpack it. Then, Linda Skeens won 25 ribbons at the Virginia-Kentucky district fair last summer. She's cataloged this impressive feat in a new book, "Blue Ribbon Kitchen." The cookbook details her award-winning recipes and offers some insight into her life in Appalachia.


What's next for the debt ceiling deal?; Andy Cohen's 'Daddy Diaries'

A six-story building in Davenport, Iowa, partially collapsed and nine people have been rescued so far. Officials say the building is a total loss and will be demolished on Tuesday. WVIK's Herb Trix joins us. Then, President Biden and House Speaker McCarthy reached a proposed deal on the debt ceiling debate. The House Rules Committee will consider it. Rep. Dusty Johnson (R-SD), who helped negotiate the deal, joins us. And Samantha Sanders, director of government affairs and advocacy for the Economic Policy Institute, joins us to talk about who will be most affected by this proposed deal. And, most people know Andy Cohen as an eccentric TV personality who spars with the "Real Housewives" and co-hosts New Year's Eve specials with Anderson Cooper. But he's also written 10 books, the most recent of which titled "Daddy Diaries." Cohen joins us to talk about the book and his journey through single parenthood.


Montford Point Marine shares experience with racial segregation; Summer movie picks

The House is slated to vote Wednesday on the debt ceiling deal hashed out over the weekend by President Joe Biden and Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. National Economic Council Deputy Director Bharat Ramamurti and the Washington Post's Jeff Stein join us. And, First Sgt. William "Jack" McDowell, Marine Corps was among the first Black men enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps. His granddaughter, Sonia Smith Kang, tells us about his service. Then, Memorial Day is the traditional start of the summer movie season. John Horn, arts and entertainment reporter for LAist, gives us a preview.


La Marisoul and Los Texmaniacs' 'Corazones and Canciones'; Misogynoir in hip-hop

La Marisoul and Max Baca of Los Texmaniacs talk about their latest album, "Corazones and Canciones." And, Maverick City Music is a diverse collective that's changing the Christian music landscape. Maverick City Music co-founder Jonathan Jay and member Norman Gyamfi talk about what they bring to contemporary Christian music. Then, Sidney Madden and Rodney Carmichael, hosts of the NPR podcast "Louder Than A Riot," talk about how the specific discrimination against Black women plays out in hip-hop.


Companies pull back LGBTQ support; How one Tina Turner superfan cherishes her legacy

Target says it's removing some of its Pride Month merchandise from store shelves after it received threats that made employees feel unsafe. But critics say that Target's decision sends a signal to right-wing extremists that their intimidation is working. NBC News' Ben Collins tells us more. And, Tina Turner was a true icon in every sense of the word. Superfan Donovan Marcelle, who once had the opportunity of a lifetime performing with her on stage during her reunion tour in 2000, joins us. Then, children of color face multiple barriers when it comes to learning how to swim. We learn about a new initiative called Swim Seattle that aims to tackle racial disparities in drowning deaths in the city.


Uvalde pastors reflect on 1 year since shooting; A24's 'You Hurt My Feelings'

One year ago, a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde Texas. The community is still grieving. Pastor Tony Gruben and Pastor Joe Ruiz join us. And, A24's film "You Hurt My Feelings" explores the dynamic of a marriage in crisis after the wife discovers her husband has been lying about liking her latest book. Writer-director Nicole Holofcener joins us. Then, how many Kyles does it take to break a world record? An event in Kyle, Texas sought to answer that by bringing together as many people named Kyle as possible. Kyle Gassiott of Troy Public Radio.


How a baby's early experiences shape their health later in life; Colorado River deal

Arizona Department of Water Resources director Tom Buschatzke and California Natural Resources Secretary Wade Crowfoot talk about a temporary deal to restrict the use of Colorado River water while Western states come up with a longer-term plan to share the river's limited water amid a historic drought. And, researchers are learning more about how relationships with caregivers and sound nutrition can impact a child's immune, metabolic, and cardiovascular systems as they get older. Dr. Jack Shonkoff tells us more. Then, climate change is here, but your child likely isn't learning much about it at school. We learn about the state of climate literacy in education from Jennifer Jones of the Center for Science and Democracy at the Union of Concerned Scientists and science writer Mary Batten.


The labor fight against AI; Military spouses often feel overwhelmed and alone

A big part of the WNBA's growing popularity is the return of Brittney Griner — the star player returning to the Phoenix Mercury after enduring a harrowing stay in Russian detention. Here & Now's Peter O'Dowd was at her first home game on Sunday night. Then, AI has become a sticking point in the ongoing strike by the Writers Guild of America. What happens in Hollywood could have implications for other industries, too. Signal Foundation President Meredith Whittaker tells us more. Then, many of the wives — and husbands — of active-duty military members say they feel isolated. A new pilot peer support group aims to help military spouses find connection and resources. We hear from three spouses across the country.


3 fresh pea dishes to celebrate the end of winter; Shakespeare's first folio

Officials at the Alpine Crest Elementary School canceled a program designed by librarian Caroline Mickey to be sensitive to children who might not have a mother. Mickey and Hamiton County School Board representative Ben Connor join us. And, Shakespeare's first folio was published 400 years ago. The Folger Shakespeare Library in D.C. has 82 of the 235 known surviving copies and is currently renovating to exhibit them all free to the public. Folger librarian Greg Prickman tells us more. Then, resident chef Kathy Gunst shares three new recipes using peas, which are in season.


'Love to Love You, Donna Summer'; Drug overdoses in U.S. slightly increased in 2022

The World Meteorological Organization found that our planet is on track to break record levels of heat over the next five years And we may pass a major climate change threshold. MSNBC's Ali Velshi joins us. And, Columbia University professor Katherine Keyes talks about the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that found drug overdose deaths increased by 2% last year. Then, between 1976 and 1982, Donna Summer had more top-10 hits than any other recording artist. Now, the new documentary "Love to Love You: Donna Summer" tells the singer's whole story. Summer's daughter Brooklyn Sudano made the movie. We speak with Sudano.


Women senators fight South Carolina abortion ban; Audiobooks recommendations

South Carolina lawmakers Katrina Shealy and Margie Bright Matthews — two of five "sister senators," a bipartisan group of the only women in the state senate who are banding together to fight a near-total ban on abortion in a special session that starts this week — join us. And, STAT's Brittany Trang talks about a promising study that tested a patch for toddlers with peanut allergies. Then, "The Stacks" podcast creator and host Traci Thomas shares recommendations from the more recent crop of audiobooks.


Ugly side of We Buy Ugly Houses; Bisa Butler's art weaves together history and hope

Special counsel John Durham issued a report that criticizes the FBI for its investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign. Washington Post reporter Devlin Barrett joins us to talk about the report. And, you've probably seen a sign that says "We Buy Ugly Houses" in your neighborhood somewhere. A new report from ProPublica uncovered the ugly side of the company's business tactics. Anjeanette Damon, one of the ProPublica reporters who reported the story, joins us. Then, Bisa Butler creates vibrant, electrifying quilt portraits using scraps of clothes. Her pieces weave together the culture and history of Black American life. Her new exhibit, "The World is Yours," is on display now at the Jeffrey Deitch Gallery in New York. Butler joins us to talk about her work and inspirations.


Can cereal and ice cream help you sleep?; The end of Title 42

Sheriff David Hathaway of Santa Cruz County, Arizona, talks about the situation along the border after the end of the border policy known as Title 42. Then, The City reporter Gwynne Hogan discusses the struggle to find shelter for thousands of migrants being sent to New York City. Over the weekend, Mayor Eric Adams announced that the shuttered Roosevelt Hotel will be used as a temporary shelter. And, if you're like most Americans, you may not have slept particularly well last night. Sleep-promoting cereal, ice cream and chocolate bars are gaining traction. But do they work? Charles Czeisler, chief of the Division of Sleep and Circadian Disorders at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, weighs in.


The fate of the imperiled Colorado River and attempts to mitigate disaster

A water shortage on the Colorado River has put tremendous strain on the states that rely on it as a main water source. The fate of California's Salton Sea is tied to the future of the river, and a catastrophic drought has only worsened conditions. As the river's water supply dwindles lower and lower, farmers in different states fight over the allocation of resources. Farmers who rely on the water to grow crops are needing to cut way down on water consumption, but some states are still receiving significantly more water than others. Tensions are especially high between farmers in Arizona and California. But there have been some efforts to reduce the water needed to maintain agricultural industries, and vertical farming is one of them. It won't replace traditional field agriculture, experts say, but it's a step toward growing crops with fewer resources. Here & Now's Peter O'Dowd reports on the devastation of the Colorado River and its rocky future.


'The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom' drops; Efforts to save birds in danger

The public health order Title 42 comes to an end Thursday. We speak with two migrants to hear why they left their home countries and hope to claim asylum in the U.S. Jennifer Babaie, director of legal services at Las Americas immigrant advocacy center, also joins us. And, over the past 50 years, one-third of North America's birds have disappeared, according to a 2019 study. Journalists Anders Gyllenhaal and Beverly Gyllenhaal talk about their new book "A Wing And A Prayer: The Race To Save Our Vanishing Birds." Then, Nintendo releases its biggest game in years on Friday, the latest in the massively influential "Legend of Zelda" series. It comes after the "Mario" movie broke records. The Washington Post's Gene Park tells us more.


Whaling logs and climate change; The 11 most endangered places in the U.S.

On Tuesday, a jury in Manhattan found former President Donald Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation of writer E. Jean Carroll. Jane Manning, director of the Women's Equal Justice Project and a former sex crimes prosecutor, joins us. And, researchers found that 19th-century whaling logs contribute to climate science as sailors meticulously logged currents, weather and more. Timothy Walker from the University of Massachusetts, Dartmouth approached Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution with the idea for research. Then, the National Trust for Historic Preservation has released its 2023 list of the most endangered places in the U.S. Included in the list of 11 are a gas station, a church and a cemetery. Katherine Malone-France, chief preservation officer with the National Trust for Historic Preservation, joins us.


'My Father's Brain' explores the effect of Alzheimer's disease; No Mow May

Brett Cross, whose son Uziyah Garcia was killed in the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, talks about the bill in the Texas legislature that would raise the minimum age to buy certain semi-automatic rifles from 18 to 21. And, author and cardiologist Sandeep Jauhar discusses his new book "My Father's Brain: Life in the Shadow of Alzheimer's," which intertwines information about the disease and how it's treated with his own family's story of coping when his father developed Alzheimer's. And, proponents of the No Mow May movement are urging homeowners not to mow those lawns for the month to preserve and create habitat for birds, butterflies and bees that pollinate our plants. We hear more about the movement and why it's controversial.


Is the digital media era ending?; A Day Without Child Care

A man drove his SUV into a crowd of people outside a shelter for migrants in Brownsville, Texas, Sunday morning. The driver killed 8 people and injured 10 others. Gaige Davila, a reporter for Texas Public Radio's Border and Immigration Desk, joins us. And, are we coming to the end of the digital media era? Ben Smith, author and former editor-in-chief of Buzzfeed News, joins us to talk about his new book "Traffic: Genius, Rivalry and Delusion in the Billion-Dollar Race to Go Viral" and why he thinks the age of digital media is ending. Then, more than 700 child care providers are shutting down for the day in at least 20 states. They're rallying for better pay for educators and more affordable care for families. We speak with BriTanya Brown, the owner of a child care business in Stamford, Texas, and advocate Latoya Gayle.