LET IT OUT

This week, I talk to my good friend of nearly a decade, author Katie Horwitch. We reminisce about our years of friendship, both moving to New York, and the evolving nature of relationships with distance. Our conversation also delves into the celebration of her new book and exploring her writing process. With a background in theater, Katie has long been an advocate for helping women shift negative self-talk patterns, a theme central to her book. She emphasizes the importance of beginning with the "self" rather than the "talk" when trying to shift negative internal dialog. In this episode, we explore why developing a stronger sense of self is the initial step to shifting negative self-talk. Additionally, we touch on Katie's insights into loneliness, belonging, casual negativity, prioritization, coping with overwhelm, distilling a project down to a concise thesis, and energy management. Let us know if you listen! Show Notes: - Find Katie on the Web | Instagram | WANT: Women Against Negative Talk - Katie's book, Want Your Self - This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below: Sunday morning writeTuesday night writeStorylines Poetry Saloncalendar- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox - I have a couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a free half-hour session with me here to see if it's a good fit - Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 180: Phoebe Lapine on The Wellness Project, Health vs. Hedonism, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Only Childisms, Cooking + More!

In this episode, I speak with Shari Foos, a marriage and family therapist and the visionary founder of The Narrative Method. We delve into the power of human connection, discussing concepts like the "cult of culture," the transformative impact of uninterrupted sharing, and the art of hosting salons. Shari shares her wisdom on managing overgiving, navigating friendships, and sustaining romantic relationships. We explore the nuances of self-work and its profound influence on our connections with others, what makes a genuine apology, feeling misunderstood, and effective communication techniques. Join us as Shari reflects on her bold move to LA at 20, her experiences in acting and the music industry, returning to school to become a therapist, and relocating to NYC where she began her practice. Plus, we unravel the intricacies of neurodiversity and the challenges of managing intrusive thoughts, creativity, and the art of genuine human interaction. Show Notes: - Check out The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon with Shari below: Sunday morning writeTuesday night writeWednesday conversation saloncalendar- My book, Let It Out: A Journey Through Journaling - Read about "soft stories" here - Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox - A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) - Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout

This week I spoke with Zachary Hourihane, a journalist living in Singapore. After going to school in New York, he returned to Singapore and began his career working in journalism there. He now works in corporate advertising while simultaneously being a prolific pop culture creator. He delivers heavily researched video essays and his thoughtful perspective on pop culture on his channel Swiftologist. He has videos on everything from Lana Del Rey to Lorde to tk. Tk tk and he’s most known for chronicling the life and times of his favorite pop icon, Taylor Swift. He’s been part of the fandom for over a decade and for the last four years, he’s co-hosted the podcast The Evolution of a Snake where he and his co-host, Madeline Rubicam (writer of the Lizard Review), go through year by year and break down the catalog and career of Taylor Swift. We cover the Beatles-esque mania of Taylor Swift and Zack’s take on where it’s going from here, as well as how he got into the fandom, the early Tumblr days, connecting with his co-host Madeline, how he got into American pop culture, selective vulnerability and self-mythologizing, and his process for making video essays and keeping up with the pace of media while working full time, including how he takes care of himself amidst the busyness. We recorded this on zoom a few months ago; it was late at night for him in Singapore and early in the morning for me. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes: - Find Zachary on Instagram | YouTube | Podcast - This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below: Sunday morning writeTuesday night writeWednesday conversation saloncalendar- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox - A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) - Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 383: The 1 a.m. Conversation: New York Times Columnist Kyle Buchanan on Writing, Togetherness, Mad Max & More

This week is not an interview, instead it’s two clips from the second show I co-host with Serena Wolf, called Spiraling. It's our fifth season and this season is a little bit in the "messy middle," which I'll explain in the first clip from episode two. In it Serena and I talk about how stress and being “in process” affect anxiety, feeling stagnant, worrying about being behind, and how perspective is the ultimate reframe. It’s a toast to your next existential crisis… Then I play a clip from an unreleased episode where we discuss how we’ve been learning that taking breaks actually improves our productivity, while also touching on the surprising difficulty of committing to rest. Let us know if you listen! Show Notes: - Listen to Spiraling on Apple Podcasts | Spotify - Find Serena on the Web | Instagram - This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below: Sunday morning writeTuesday night writeWednesday conversation saloncalendar- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox - A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) - Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 411: We're Spiraling: Money Shame, Comparison, Marriage, Kids & Different Timelines

This week Cale Tyson returns. He’s a musician originally from Texas, now living in LA. He walked over the other day and we caught up about what’s happened since he was here last including his upcoming pop country album. We talk about his music trajectory from playing in emo bands in high school to beginning a music career in Nashville to touring as a classic country artist and now, making the shift to pop country. We also delve into our feelings around aging and entering what Richard Rohr calls, "the second half of life," bouncing between projects, attachment styles, dating, and learning to not take anything too seriously—especially yourself. Show Notes: - Find Cale on the Web | Instagram | Spotify | Book - Maddie's newsletter: Wait, Have You Read This? The specific Issue I read from: 06: Nice Guys - Listen to Cale's music and follow him on Spotify to find his new singles - This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below: Sunday morning writeTuesday night writeWednesday conversation saloncalendar- Subscribe to our newsletter to get show notes + essays, etc. sent to your inbox - A few spots open in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) - Check out the Let It Out Kits: self-study workshops for personal growth | sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - Follow @letitouttt on Instagram. I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 418: Cale remembers his thoughts: musician Cale Tyson on rehab, recovery & our neighborhood feeling like high school...

In this week's episode, I spoke to my good friend Melina Peterson about the hidden effort behind appearing effortless, human design, astrology, leaving a full-time job after navigating the corporate matrix, burnout, and more. Melina started her own digital marketing agency called Cornerlight Digital and recently made the challenging decision to pause it to take a sabbatical. We recorded this while she was in the midst of her career pause, so she shared what’s been coming up for her, including: exploring synchronicities, reconnecting with her inner child, and reevaluating her values post-pandemic. She still lives in NYC but recently visited LA, so we recorded this in person at my kitchen table while she was in town. Let us know if you listened. Show Notes: - Katie has a few spots in her Creative Clinic this fall! Book a free call here to see if it's a fit! - Find Melina on Instagram | LinkedIn - Check out Cornerlight Digital, Melina's digital marketing agency & see the post about her sabbatical on IG here. - Follow 5th Floor Walk-Up, Melina's home decor blog - This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below: Sunday morning writeTuesday night writeWednesday conversation saloncalendar - Sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - All of our kits, including the Podcast Kit & Interview Kit - Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 372: Becoming Sturdy & Expansive with Jules Bakshi, Founder & CEO of GOOD MOVE

This is just a preview of Even the Royals.... Admit it: you’re obsessed with royal families – watching them, gossiping about them, wanting to be them. It’s the stuff of fantasy. But for real life royals, the crown jewels can be more like shiny handcuffs. There are expectations and rules – and if you break them, the consequences are big, and very public. And no, we’re not just talking about Harry and Meghan. There are royal families and wild royal tales from around the world and throughout history that you have never heard before. From Wondery comes the latest from Even the Rich co-hosts Brooke Siffrinn and Aricia Skidmore-Williams, Even the Royals. They’ll take you inside the cloistered world of royal families, past and present, where wealth and status often come at the expense of your freedom – and maybe even your life. This is just a preview of Even the Royals. You can listen to the full episode exclusively on Wondery+. https://wondery.app.link/ETR_LIO

This week I spoke with iconic musician Moby, who has recently ventured into podcasting with "MOBY POD" alongside sustainability expert Lindsay Hicks. I met them both for the first time when I went to Moby’s house to record this a few months ago. We talked for hours about everything from the sunk cost fallacy to attachment and aversion. He’s candid about getting sober and his experience with fame and how that has impacted his perspective. A thread that runs through this conversation is perspective, nostalgia, and storytelling as well as attachment, connection, and self-awareness. Let us know if you listened. Show Notes: - This episode is sponsored by The Narrative Method: sign up for a free writing or conversation Salon below: Sunday morning writeTuesday night writeWednesday conversation saloncalendar- Sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - All of our kits, including the Podcast Kit & Interview Kit - Find Moby on the Web | Instagram| Podcast - Find Lindsay on Instagram - Books recommended: AttachedA General Theory of LovePorcelain- Our newsletter to get show notes + more - Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 418: Cale remembers his thoughts: musician Cale Tyson on rehab, recovery & our neighborhood feeling like high school...

This week I spoke to author and founder of Reset NYC Liz Tran. In addition to her fifteen years of tech and VC experience, Liz also coaches from her spiritual practice. She is a Buddhist and a trained meditation teacher, and studied at the Samyak Ashram in Dharamshala, India. In this we spoke about the difference between self-esteem and self-worth and the benefits of developing self-worth which include: increased productivity, socializing, assertiveness, and resilience. We talk about the importance of feeling comfortable with the people you surround yourself with in order to build self-esteem. As well as how to be assertive without being rude, how family constellations helped her make some major life changes, and how she works with her founders as an executive coach. Her new book The Karma of Success just came out, so we talk about some of my favorite parts including the diagrams, figures, and visuals she uses to break down concepts and how she comes up with them. I loved talking with her. Show Notes: - Sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - All of our kits, including the Podcast Kit & Interview Kit - Find Liz on the Web | Instagram| Podcast - Order Liz's book, The Karma of Success - Our newsletter to get show notes + more - Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout

Writer and podcast producer Amelia Hruby is back for part 2. Last time we focused on how she left and the feelings that come with navigating using Instagram both personally and professionally. This time we focused on podcasting, including how we both have used it to build connections, how we’ve seen the medium evolve, and where she sees the future of the industry. We cover live dynamic conversations vs. monologues, deep listening, the strengths and limitations of podcasting as a medium, the role of editing and more. Whether you're an aspiring podcaster, avid listener, or simply curious about the future of podcasts, this episode is an exploration of the medium's potential and its ongoing evolution. Show Notes: - Sign up for the Talk Kit waitlist - All of our kits, including the Podcast Kit & Interview Kit - Find Amelia's work & podcasts on the Web - Amelia's & my podcast app recs: GoodpodsOvercastSnipdListennotes- Judith Butler - Deep Listening by Pauline Oliveros - Our newsletter to get show notes + more. - Instagram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - Photo credit: Linsey Huffaker If you liked this episode, try out: Episode #420: Collapsing Timelines with Holisticism's Michelle & Wallis

This week I had a conversation with Athena Monet, a former architect--she left both her job and the city to move near the ocean. It’s there where she became an author of the book Leave With Love and started her practice as a shaman helping people through life transitions. She’s also a mother of five, so in this conversation we covered her perspective around productivity which includes both permission and integration. As well as how she got into the work she does now after the death of her mother, why transitions like divorces, breakups, and moves are so fertile for personal growth, beauty and body image, and much more. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes: - Our newsletter to get show notes + more. - Instgram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: info here - Find Athena on the Web | Instagram - Order Athena's book, Leave With Love - SPONSOR: this episode is sponsored by Paleovalley--click here for 15% off your first order! - SPONSOR: this episode is also sponsored by Nutrafol--get $10 off by clicking here and using code letitout at checkout! - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop with recs ...with shelves for guests Thanks so much for listening to this podcast.

YEAH, I F*CKED THAT UP is a weekly interview podcast hosted by Billy Mann. Billy holds many titles - songwriter, entrepreneur, father, philanthropist, and now podcast host. Throughout his career, Billy has worked alongside many marquee names in entertainment. Their biggest achievements are what they are known for, but it’s their biggest failures that made them who they are. In each episode, Billy will discuss those failures with his guests - actors, novelists, musicians, CEOs - and draw from it a potent combination of laughter and inspiration from the stories they share. Key show guests include L.A. Reid, Kelly Rowland, Liz Gillies, Aly & AJ, and more. Listen wherever you get your podcasts! We'll be back with new episodes next week! : )

This week I spoke to writer and podcaster Amelia Hruby. She’s also the author of the book Fifty Feminist Mantras. In this conversation we primarily focus on one aspect of her work, the topic of her show: Off the Grid: Leaving Social Media Without Losing All Your Clients. We discuss her experience of leaving social media and the feelings that come with navigating Instagram both personally and professionally. She shares how the boundaries she set up for herself failed her and how the pros of leaving Instagram outweighed the cons. We unpack the nuances of the social capital of instagram, parasocial relationships on it, how our use of it evolved since we first got it, and the emotions tied up in using it socially. We spent so much time on this topic, that she will be back for part two where we will focus on podcasting, from what makes a good conversation to where she sees the future of the industry and more. Show Notes: - Our newsletter to get show notes + more. - Instgram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: info here - Amelia's book, Fifty Feminist Mantras - Find Amelia's work & podcasts on the Web - SPONSOR: this episode is sponsored by Paleovalley--click here for 15% off your first order! - SPONSOR: this episode is also sponsored by Nutrafol--get $10 off by clicking here and using code letitout at checkout! - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop with recs ...with shelves for guests Thanks so much for listening to this podcast.

This week is a clip from an interview I did earlier this year on Andi Eaton Alleman's podcast. In this episode, we discuss: how our tiny decisions shape us, cultivating friendships as adults, "middles" in relationships, failure and why success teaches us nothing, procrastinating out of fear and overwhelm rather than laziness, "protecting yourself from your own mind," perception, and more. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes: - Our newsletter to get show notes + more. - Instgram me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: info here - Listen to the full episode on Andi's podcast | Andi's book Elemental - SPONSOR: this episode is sponsored by Paleovalley--click here for 15% off your first order! - SPONSOR: this episode is also sponsored by Nutrafol--get $10 off by clicking here and using code letitout at checkout! - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop with recs ...with shelves for guests Thanks so much for listening to this podcast.

This week Rae McDaniel is back. Rae is a non-binary gender and sex therapist who works primarily with transgender/non-binary/questioning folks transitioning their gender identity. We talk about how everybody has an opportunity to look at their gender identity and decide how they want to express it to see they want to present themselves. You might remember from our last episode they were writing a book. It's out now and called: Gender Magic—I read an early copy and loved it. We covered some of my favorite parts like how they see gender as a galaxy, human centered design thinking, how they approach decision making, naming fear rather than ignoring it, evolving personal style and the importance of kinship through “queering” intimacy in friendships, and much more. Let us know if you listened and Happy Pride! Show Notes: - Find Rae on Instagram | Web | TikTok - Rae's new book, Gender Magic - Check out Practical Audacity - Our newsletter to get show notes + essays by me, recs, etc. - Find me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) : ) - SPONSOR: this episode is sponsored by Paleovalley--head over to paleovalley.com/letitout for 15% off your first order! - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop with recs ...with shelves for guests Thanks so much for listening to this podcast.

You may remember Anjie from her several other appearances here over the years, most recently, the in-person feng shui consulting session she did for me in my apartment. This time, in her fifth appearance on this podcast, we give some updates from making the adjustments she suggested on our last episode, plus we talk about her new book, some factors she can pinpoint that impacted her career success, and I took some questions from others including space and home adjustments for relationships, and how to adjust and compromise when merging styles when moving in with a new partner. And the question she gets most often from couples: what to do when one person values consistency and familiarity and the other loves novelty and moving around furniture. Since 1999, Anjie has been designing spaces informed by the ancient practice of feng shui and tailored to each individual’s needs, which you’ll get a taste of in this. She’s been featured everywhere from The New York Times to Domino Magazine; she’s a New York State registered architect; co-founder of the Mindful Design Feng Shui School; and author of the book Holistic Spaces and the newly published Mindful Homes. Show Notes: - Find Anjie on the Web | Instagram | Mindful Design Feng Shui School - Anjie's books: Holistic Spaces & Mindful Homes - Our newsletter to get show notes + essays by me, recs, etc. - Find me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) : ) - SPONSOR: this episode is sponsored by Paleovalley--head over to paleovalley.com/letitout for 15% off your first order! - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop with recs ...with shelves for guests - If you have any questions for our upcoming Spiraling Q&A episode, email me (katie@letitouttt.com) :) Thanks so much for listening to this podcast. If you liked this episode, try out: Episode 413: Anjie Cho Moves My Furniture & Makes It All Better

This week I spoke with Sam Burton. He’s an artist originally from Utah now living in my neighborhood in LA. Sam came over a few weeks ago and we drank tea and talked about everything from how he began playing music, to how he approaches collaboration, craft, and creativity. After spending time studying Jungian psychology, he began reading tarot for himself and others. We spoke about how that impacts his songwriting as well as dream work, typology and Myers-Briggs. He’s candid about how “perfection bubbles” burst, the value of connection, and how constructive feedback given well has shaped his sound. We get into what he’s learned about sustaining a career in music, touring, maintaining a beginner's mind, external validation and criticism, his thoughts on love, nature, friendship, the music that shaped him, and more. I especially loved this one, Sam is deeply introspective, humble, easy to talk to, and wise. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes: - Follow Sam on Instagram - Sam's LA release show night 1 (July 14) & night 2 (July 15) - Pre-order Sam's new album, Dear Departed (out July 14) - Listen to Sam's song Long Way Around - Sam's car accident GoFundMe - The Way of Tarot (the first tarot book Sam fell in love with) - For Sam's Jungian book recs: anything by Marion Woodman is a good place to begin - SPONSOR: Listen to Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso - Our newsletter to get show notes + essays by me, recs, etc. - Find me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) : ) - SPONSOR: this episode is sponsored by Paleovalley--head over to paleovalley.com/letitout for 15% off your first order! Thanks so much for listening to this podcast.

This week, one of my favorite people to talk to Sacha Jones hosts the program. For the last several years she’s come back annually to interview me the last week of April. This year we talked about how we met a decade ago, how we've changed since, how this podcast has changed, what morning routines have made it 10 years, our love of this item, cringing at past versions of ourselves, and more. Sacha tells how she ended up moving to NYC from London to be an Au pair and recently found some old journals for that time. She’s is one of the most creative, wise, and gentle people I know and our annual catch-ups end up being time capsules of that year. Let us know if you listened : ) Show Notes: -Tongue scrappers ...the love of our lives - Follow Sacha on Instagram - Sacha's general website | ceremonies website - SPONSOR: this episode is sponsored by Paleovalley--head over to paleovalley.com/letitout for 15% off your first order! - Sign up for Jésabel DC's (guest from two weeks ago!) and my Life Audit Workshop - May 2nd: I'm joining Christy Harrison (last week's guest) for her book launch at Chevalier's Books: Join us here - Find me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - The Write Kit is now 33% off with code THIRTYTHREE - Our newsletter to get show notes + essays by me, recs, etc. - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) : ) - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop with recs ...with shelves for guests - The Let It Out Kits: are self-study workshops for personal growing based on all I've ever learned and am learning. Thanks so much for listening to this podcast. If you liked this episode, try out: Episode 390 Little Things: Annual Birthday Party Hosted By Sacha Jones

This week I spoke to Christy Harrison, MPH, RD, who, in addition to being my close friend of over a decade, is someone whose work has significantly impacted me. As a journalist she’s covered food, nutrition, and health for more than 20 years. She's also a clinician working with people as a registered dietitian nutritionist specializing in eating disorders. Her writing has appeared everywhere from New York Times to the Food Network, and she's written two books: 2019's Anti-Diet and her latest, The Wellness Trap. We talked about how she’s handling the praise and criticism of a large platform, what well-being practices she does participate in, and in a clip from an interview I did with her on her new show Rethinking Wellness we talk about how my episode on her first show, Food Psych, where we talked about orthorexia was one of the early influences for this new book. We cover some topics it including the history of the hysteria diagnosis, and much more. Show Notes: - My interview with Christy on well-being > wellness - Find Christy on the Web | Instagram - Christy's podcasts: Rethinking Wellness & Food Psych - Christy's books: The Wellness Trap & Anti-Diet - Sign up for Jésabel's (last week's guest) and my Life Audit Workshop - Find me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - The Podcast Kit is 50% off with code SPRING - Our newsletter to get show notes + essays by me, recs, etc. - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) : ) - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop with recs ...with shelves for guests - The Let It Out Kits: are self-study workshops for personal growing based on all I've ever learned and am learning. Thanks so much for listening to this podcast. If you liked this episode, try out: Episode 369: Seasons of Overwhelm with Christy Harrison (Part 1) Episode 354: Don't Let It Get You Down with Savala Nolan (Part 1)

This week I spoke with Jésabel DC. She runs a digital organization studio where she helps people with anxiety organize their digital lives. I was one of them, which is how we met. We talked about the systems she helped me make, how I've struggled to sustain them, and how I can evolve her systems. With a background in psychology and design, she specializes in turning chaotic digital environments (i.e., inboxes, files, notes, calendars) into playful, functional spaces. She tells how she got into this, and what we can do to feel less overwhelmed with constant correspondence flying at us. She defines anxiety-aware communication, gives advice on managing undefined relationships, prioritizing what matters, friend assistance and more. And if you want to join us for a workshop called the Life Audit, where she and I will combine journaling and organizing to to guide you through both the emotional and practical aspects of life overwhelm. the link is in the shownotes to learn more. : ) Show Notes: - Jésabel and my Life Audit Workshop - Find me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout - Find Jésabel & the Lifestyle Lab on the Web | Instagram her organizational session | Inbox class - SPONSOR This episode is sponsored by Cured Nutrition: get 20% your first order with code letitout - The Podcast Kit is 50% off with code SPRING - Our newsletter to get show notes + essays by me, recs, etc. - A few spots in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) : ) - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop with recs ...with shelves for guests - The Let It Out Kits: are self-study workshops for personal growing based on all I've ever learned and am learning. Thanks so much for listening to this podcast.