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This is the second half of my conversation with my friend Blu Most, an artist who has worked in food styling, creative direction, and event design. We get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all. If you missed part 1 last week, we talked about embracing creative cycles, the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment, and how personal branding intersects with authenticity. Show notes: - My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout - Find Blu on the Web | Instagram - Ozma of California code: Katie15 for 15% off - My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here - Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 353: Riding Waves: Surfing, Design, and Change with Heidi Baker, Founder of Ozma of California

In this first part of my conversation with the brilliant and wildly creative Blu Most, we dive into her experience through art, food styling, creative direction, and event design—embracing creative cycles, identifying as an ideas person, and navigating the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment. We also get into stepping away from Instagram, marketing to niche communities, and how all of us being walking personal brands intersects with authenticity. Stay tuned for Part 2, where we get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, shifting towards intimate gatherings, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all. Show notes: - My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout - The reel we were talking about - Find Blu on the Web | Instagram - Ozma of California code: Katie15 for 15% off - My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here - Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 353: Riding Waves: Surfing, Design, and Change with Heidi Baker, Founder of Ozma of California

"What's your greatest lesson on romantic relationships?" is a question I've asked on her in most every episode. This week with the help of a few favorite guests, I attempt to answer it. It's the first time in 12 years that I've ever done a brief episode... brevity is not my strong suit so don't get used to it.... but I hope you like it! It features: Kristin Hanggi, Cody Cook-Parrott, Robyn Kanner, Rachelle Robinett, Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, Mari Andrew, Jon Marro, Neada Deters, and Yoke Lore. Let me know if you listen : ) Show Notes: - Breakups Kits !! + + physical zine version! a la cart here or come to the relaunch event in LA EVENT (!!!) at NOTO on 2/27! RSVP here. - My Substack- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout - My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here

In honor of Valentine’s Day it’s an episode about what I know best: romantic love… just kidding it’s about breakups! It's a variety show from 2019 where I compiled all of the times (up until then) I spoke with guests on how heartbreak, grief, and sadness can lead to growth. I play some of my favorite clips from my conversations with founder of To Be Magnetic, Lacy Phillips, herbalist at Supernatural, Rachelle Robinett, author Sara Avant Stover, dancer and writer Cody Cook-Parrott, illustrator Mari Andrew, Yoke Lore, and more ... it sounds like a bummer of an episode but it was actually optimistic and even dare I say funny? Then I react to hearing their advice 5 years later, talk about if I took it and what has happened since… Show Notes: - Breakups Kits !! + + the physical zine! I just printed more copies of it and you can get one here or come to the relaunch event at NOTO coming up on 2/27! RSVP here. - My Substack- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout - My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here - Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist

I thought it would be fun to do a year-in-review of the music of 2024 with my friend James McCrae. Neither of us are music experts, but we’re constantly sharing music with each other. James first came on the show in 2020, when we did a similar review of the music from that wild quarantine year when artists weren’t touring and we all missed live shows. Fast forward to 2024, and we chat about what we've noticed over the last five years, including the changes in the music industry, trends we've seen, and of course, what we’ve had on repeat. James, a Bob Dylan super-fan, talks about his evolving tastes, new genres, and how pop and hyperpop have influenced his music choices. He also shares his insights on the current music scene and the role of streaming, social media, and live performances. James is an author, poet, artist, and founder of Sunflower Club, a global community dedicated to conscious creativity. He’s the author of several books, including The Art of You, which we discussed last year. Show notes: - My Substack - IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout - James: Web | Instagram | new book The Art of You 2024 episode- herehere- Bandsplain & Yasi Salek's Go Fund Me - Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here - My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here - Music mentioned: Charli xcxOlivia Rodrigo - so americanChappell Roan - CasualSabrina Carpenter - TasteBeyoncé - BodyguardGracie AbramsI Love You, I'm SorryBlondshellKiss CityYo La Tengo - Before We Run Adrianne LenkerVampire EmpireWishy - SpinningWet LegWet DreamMJ Lenderman - WristwatchBrennan WedlI Wanna Be Your TVWaxahatchee - 3 Sisters If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 321: 2020 Music with James McCrae

This week I spoke with Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens, co-hosts of the Romanistan podcast. I talked to them about the tragic fires in LA and their advice on navigating dark times and finding personal and collective resilience. They shared advice on healing and self-care during crises, looking at the tarot card of the year, what they do when they're feeling uninspired or creatively blocked, embracing resilience, and the importance of bringing diverse perspectives to ancient traditions. Their new book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling, introduces the history of the Romani people and their long-standing relationship with fortune-telling, exploring techniques like card reading, palmistry, dream interpretation, and tea leaf and coffee reading, many of which were created or popularized by the Roma. We discussed their distinct cultural upbringings—Paulina’s roots in a traditional Romani community and Jezmina's mixed heritage—and how they each work with people today. And at the end they each pulled a card that's meant to be a message of anyone who listens. Show notes: - Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Find Jez @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic - Their book | podcast - Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session - Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop - Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Lenea Sims epsisode here please

Ready to take a fresh path to self-discovery? Every Monday, Jemma brings you a new mantra, breaking it down to show you how you can apply it to your own life. Whether you’re facing a major transition or looking to evolve your everyday routine, Mantra is the podcast for you. Join Jemma every week for reflections, practical tips, and personal insights that’ll inspire you to live with intention and unlock your true potential. Follow “Mantra with Jemma Sbeg” wherever you get your podcasts.

**This is part two of last week’s conversation with Dr. Patti, which was recorded prior to the devastating fires in LA. A list of resources is in the show notes below.** Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She’s also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year’s Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets. If you haven’t listened to our earlier conversations, they covered gentle naturopathic medicine, wellness vs. enjoying your life, simple quick eating, how loneliness impacts physical health, cocooning, and navigating change while staying present with what is in front of us. Show notes: - Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Find Dr. Patti on the Web | Instagram - Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session - Year of the snake (by Anjie) which I was telling you about at the end - Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop - Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Dr. Patti's earlier episodes: 362 and 345

Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She’s also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year’s Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets. I’m splitting this into two parts so come back next week for more. And in the meantime, if you haven’t listened to our earlier conversations, they covered gentle naturopathic medicine, wellness vs. enjoying your life, simple quick eating, how loneliness impacts physical health, cocooning, and navigating change while staying present with what is in front of us. Show notes: - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Find Dr. Patti on the Web | Instagram - Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session - Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop - Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Dr. Patti's earlier episodes: 362 and 345

This week I spoke to Ashley Stahl, a counterterrorism professional turned international bestselling author and Forbes contributor. Not only is Ashley a TEDx speaker herself, she's now a highly sought-after TEDx speechwriter and CEO of her agency Wise Whisper, which helps people craft impactful talks and get booked on major stages. Ashley opens up about navigating the liminal spaces of life, where clarity is elusive, and how discipline plays a crucial role in finding your next elegant idea. Together, we discuss creative pivots, the value of storytelling, and embracing discomfort as a path to growth. Show notes: - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session - Find Ashley on IG: @ashleystahl | Wise Whisper Agency - NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... let me know if you have any questions! - Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 358: High Intention, Low Attachment with Ashley Stahl

In this special year-in-review mailbag episode, producer Ella and I look back on favorite standout episodes from 2024, our process of working together, and what's ahead for Let It Out in the coming year. We answer a few questions about walking, the challenges of maintaining consistency, and our collaborative process with writing and editing newsletters and the truth of how our ideas take shape. Let us know if you listen! Show notes: - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack --my episode on maddie's youtube where she interviews me November 2024: part 1 and part 2 - Magic Mind: get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code: LETITOUT - Speechify: get 60% off their premium plan with my link - NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... let me know if you have any questions! - Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! - COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Mailbag episode with editor Briana Bane

It's just me this week, delivering a dispatch that feels more like a voice note to a friend than a typical interview. I centered this around how the so-called "irony epidemic" has shaped the way I work, write, and share my projects in a culture that often resists earnestness. I reflect on the push/pull between sincerity and detachment, the ways we seek validation both online and offline, and how group chats, community, and connection factor into it all. Plus, why being “goo prone” might just be the most human thing of all. Show notes: - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - Magic Mind: get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code: LETITOUT - Submit a question for our q&a episode: write them here OR record here and we’ll play it on the episode! Announcements: - NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... Let me know if you have any questions! - Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming 2025: sign up for the waitlist Sources Mentioned : -Ethel Cain's Tumblr post -Article: The Internet's Superiority Complex -Video essay: "Nobody Takes Anything Seriously Anymore" -Video essay: "The Irony Epidemic: why people are so mean right now" -Podcast episode: "Is Online Superiority & The Irony Epidemic Rotting Our Brains? by The Polyester Podcast -Nada Alic's episode (part 1 & part 2) | her book, Bad Thoughts Soundbite clips: -Stay by Lisa Loeb -Reality Bites Clip -Almost Famous Clip If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 462: Micro-Hysterical Moments: Amanda Chantal Bacon on shame, aging, dating, the myth of balance & more!

This is the second half of my conversation with one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. In Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what’s going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest. If you missed Part 1 last week, we talked about about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process. Show notes: - Find Melissa on Instagram - Her books: So Sad Today, Milk Fed, The Pisces, Superdoom, Last Sext & her newest, Death Valley - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy - The Self-Compassion workbook Melissa mentions - Speechify (the text-to-speech app I use to edit my writing) If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 407: Bad Thoughts with Nada Alic (part 2 of 2) Episode 308: Writing, Feelings & Friendship with Leah Clancy

This week, I spoke to one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. I’m splitting this one up into two parts… Today you’ll hear the first half of our conversation where we talked about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process. Next week, in Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what’s going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest. Show notes: - Find Melissa on Instagram - Her books: So Sad Today, Milk Fed, The Pisces, Superdoom, Last Sext & her newest, Death Valley - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 406: Bad Thoughts with Nada Alic (part 1 of 2)

What you’re about to hear is a conversation between writer Verônika Shülman and myself, recorded last week at a party! In honor of the release of my new zine, Pivot, I hosted a party at NOTO and invited all of my friends. It was so nice to be in the same room with everyone after being stuck inside for most of the summer with a broken leg—in that time I had put together this zine, which is about the lessons I learned in the last decade and how I learned them. My friend and neighbor Verônika hosts this episode. She begins by reading from a book we both love (I Love Dick by Chris Kraus), then reads a bit that she liked from Pivot, and asks me to read an essay from it—which I do. My friends Maddie and Dexter also ask questions and we talk about more writers we love. If you want a copy of Pivot, below is how to get yourself a hard copy. Show notes: - Find Verônika on Instagram - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy - My book on journaling | WRITE kit - Check out NOTO! If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 458: Introducing PIVOT with Simi Botic Episode 423: I Can't Believe I'm Still Doing This...10 Years! With Sacha Jones

This week, Simi Botic—author, founder of Unmeasured, and my best friend—joins me to talk about PIVOT, a new zine of essays I compiled. After breaking my leg this summer, being stuck inside gave me time to put this together. Simi was the first person I sent it to, partly because she's a character in it and wrote one of the essays with me, and because she's always so gentle and supportive. I don't know how I got so lucky to have her as a friend but I did. In this, we talked about seeing each other through different phases. And about the uncomfortable feelings that come from revisiting our old work but try to do as Didion advises, "stay on nodding terms" with our past selves. PIVOT is one big nod to my 20's, including all the lessons I learned and the experiences that taught me them. Let us know if you listen. Show notes: - PIVOT zine is here - sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy | LA launch party on 9/27! - My book on journaling | WRITE kit - Find Simi on the Web | Instagram | Podcast - Simi's class, Unmeasured - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - 5 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 455: Saying What We're Afraid to with Founder R29 & A Tiny Apt. Christene Barberich

This week I spoke to Neada Deters, founder of the organic skincare range LESSE. We met when she still lived in LA a few years ago so we began this conversation discussing her recent move to NYC, which is a return for her. Neada moved to New York the first time from Australia with a one-way ticket over a decade ago, so we talked about how she made that big decision and many more, including starting out her career in music journalism, working at VICE, and eventually pivoting her beat to beauty writing before eventually starting her skincare line. Inspired by watching her grandmother apply her skincare, Neada gave LESSE the tagline, rituals over routines. We covered her own daily rituals as well as how she spends her days, working with her husband, her advice on romantic relationships, keeping in touch with people far away, and her approach to beauty including where the industry is going and what seeing images of ourselves more than ever before does to our self perception, plus much more. We talked for hours and could’ve continued, let us know if you listen! Show notes: - Follow @neadadeters & @lesseofficial - Shop LESSE organic skincare - My newsletters on sitting & on voice notes - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - We made a new printed zine! Sign up for the paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy | LA launch party on 9/27! - 5 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 382: Beauty is Wild: Nadine Artemis on Aging, Vanity, Focus, Change, Living Libations & More

This week I spoke with Zoë Pawlak, a Vancouver-based artist and industrial designer. After deciding to get sober, she turned to journaling as a way of expression and inner reflection. Soon she married her interests in art and writing to create Vessels and Muses. In this conversation we cover: breaking traditional norms of what’s possible when you have kids; living an "artist lifestyle"; how what she calls "life quakes" lead to growth; and letting go of what’s no longer working. We also talk a lot about communication, the benefits of directness, community care, how she manages deep friendships while still maintaining a creative practice, and much more. Let us know if you listen! Show notes: - Find Zoë on the Web | Instagram | Oracle Deck - My book on journaling - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here - Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist - More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 202: Ashley Glynn on Soul Tattoos, Being Embodied, Connection, Slowing Down, Plant Medicine + more

This week I spoke with the iconic writer and editor Christene Barberich. I first knew of her as the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Refinery29. I’ve loved her work for years, through R29, her own writing, and the podcast she hosted for many years called Unstyled, so when recent guest Erika Veurink connected us, I was thrilled. We spoke about starting R29 and what that time was like, reflecting on some of her best interviews with everyone from Linda Rodin to Jenny Slate. She also talked about leaving her role there and the excitement of new beginnings. At the root of her newest project, A Tiny Apt., is how the right environment fosters growth, creativity, safety and vulnerability, particularly as that relates to big dramatic change and leaps of faith. She discussed the changes she’s been navigating: becoming a mom later in life; the double standard of aging especially as it relates to work; how she’s redefining success and ambition as she enters this new era of her work and life. I loved getting to talk to her and I’m eager for her to return. Let us know if you listen! Show notes: - Find Christene on the Web | Instagram - Unstyled podcast | A Tiny Apt. substack - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here - Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist - More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 452 Long Live: Erika Veurink Is Here (Part 1 of 2)

This week I spoke to President Obama’s Social Secretary, Deesha Dyer. She recently published her memoir, Undiplomatic, which dives into how a hip-hop journalist without credentials, connections, or a college degree conquered imposter syndrome while landing one of the most sought-after positions in the White House. Moved by the election of the country's first Black president, she applied for a White House internship at 31, taking a leap that carried her through being hired in a full-time position that landed her at the epicenter of politics. I loved her book and was stoked to get to talk to her. We covered: the importance of following curiosity and acting on it, what she learned from spending time with Michelle and Barack Obama, redefining societal timelines, throwing parties at the White House, the Obama years overall, and the connection between pop culture and politics. As well as: the importance of cross-learning in mentorship and having customer service experience. Let us know if you listen! Show notes: -Find Deesha on the Web | Instagram - Deesha's book, Undiplomatic - NYT article on "medium friends" - Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack - A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here - Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist - More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive: Episode 354 Don't Let It Get You Down: Savala Nolan Returns (part 1)