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Heben Nigatu and Tracy Clayton cover everything from race, gender and pop culture to squirrels, mangoes, and bad jokes, all in one boozy show.


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Heben Nigatu and Tracy Clayton cover everything from race, gender and pop culture to squirrels, mangoes, and bad jokes, all in one boozy show.




Episode 113: Our 2017 Kwanzaa Spectacular!

Join us for our second annual Kwanzaa Spectacular, live at the Bell House in Brooklyn, NY! First, NPR Code Switch host Gene Demby brings us some forgotten Kwanzaa principles. Then MacArthur Genius and New York Times investigative reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones celebrates the silver linings of 2017. And later, DJ extraordinaire Donwill serenades us with some Kwanzaa carols. Plus a Kwanzaa tale, Drunken Debates, some special guests, and more! Follow Nikole Hannah-Jones at @nhannahjones. Follow Gene Demby at @GeeDee215. Follow Donwill at @donwill. Follow Heben: @heavenrants Follow Tracy: @brokeymcpoverty Follow Another Round: @anotherround Email us: Check out our Facebook page: Keep following us on all of the things so we can keep you up to date on things to come <3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 112: Dearest Y'all, We Have Some News

We get our tarot cards read and make an announcement about our future. Keep following us on all of the things so we can keep you up to date on what's to come <3My Feminism Involves Music Archive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 111: Cream of the Crop (with Dodai Stewart)

This week, writer and editor Dodai Stewart chats with us about everything from Korean dramas to dating in New York to iPhone games to drug stores in different countries, and more. Come for insightful commentary on the state of digital media, stay for the Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 75: Citizen's Arrest (Encore)

With the holiday season comes more awkward conversations with family, so we're bringing you an encore episode of our first ever call-in show where you, dear listeners, share with us how you're talking gender, race, politics, and more with your parents, aunties, in-laws, step-siblings, nephews, and more. And guess what: it's really hard! And messy! And you're not alone! We also got our homie Gene Demby of NPR's Code Switch on the line to talk through the now-public email exchange between Margaret Cho and Tilda Swinton about whitewashed Hollywood roles. It's a vintage beef that highlights the ever-relevant question: when will white folks stop making people of color do undue emotional labor? And come to our Kwanzaa Spectacular live at the Bell House at 8pm on December 8th - get your tickets here. Email us: Follow us: @heavenrants and @brokeymcpoverty Follow Gene Demby at @geedee215 and @nprcodeswitch Sign up for our newsletter at Check out our merch! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 38: Let Black Girls Be Funny (with Janelle James) - Encore

Janelle James stops by the stude to chat with us about her new comedy album, Black and Mild, and we plan Girls Trip 2. Then we bring you an encore episode featuring an interview with Janelle, the debut of a segment called White Devil's Advocate, and Stacy's Career Corner (during which Tracy finds an unexpected Google result...!). And come to our Kwanzaa Spectacular live at the Bell House at 8pm on December 8th - get your tickets here.


Episode 110: Wheatgrass in Your Ass (with Jenifer Lewis)

This week, we bring to you our conversation with living legend, Jenifer Lewis. You know her from your favorite sitcoms like Fresh Prince, Girlfriends, and most recently, Black-ish, as well as iconic films like What’s Love Got to Do With It? (playing Angela Bassett’s mother), The Preacher’s Wife (as Whitney Houston’s mom), and Poetic Justice (as Tupac’s mom). She has a new memoir out, fittingly called The Mother of Black Hollywood. She chats with us about her illustrious career, navigating bipolar disorder, and learning how to properly self-care. Plus, she shares with us some valuable insight on whether or not Tom Hanks is a black man, and you might hear her sing a song or three with Tracy (!). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 109: #MeToo (with Stacy-Marie Ishmael)

This week, professional rabble-rouser Stacy-Marie Ishmael is back in the stude with Stacy's Career Corner. She responds to a range of listener questions, from what to do when you're labelled a "feminazi" at work, to how to handle white male bosses with unchecked power. Plus, we discuss sexual harassment, #MeToo, and fighting, because we sold out our December 7th Kwanzaa Spectacular (thank you!), we've added a second Kwanzaa Spectacular live show on December 8th at 8pm at the Bell House. Tickets go on sale on Saturday at noon here: Come see us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 108: Toronto Live! (with Scaachi Koul and Maria Qamar)

This week, we bring you our first ever live show from Toronto! BuzzFeed writer Scaachi Koul reads from her memoir, One Day We'll All Be Dead and None of This Will Matter, then tells us about her trip to the Juggalo March, her DMs from The Rock, and her obsession with Danielle Steele. Plus, artist Maria Qamar aka HateCopy delves into the colorful world of auntie archetypes that she features in her new book, Trust No Aunty, and helps us answer the seminal question: do white people have family reunions? Special thanks to the HotDocs team for organizing such a dope podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Introducing: Thirst Aid Kit

We're thrilled to introduce a new podcast hosted by friends-of-the-show Bim Adewunmi and Nichole Perkins. In this inaugural episode, they examine the charms of Southern men. With a little help from Nichole’s friend Cynthia Harris, they jumpstart the conversation looking at the very juicy André 3000 before sifting through portrayals of the South in film and TV. Plus: a battle for fanfiction supremacy in Fanfic Wars—vote early and vote often for your favorite. Find show notes, fanfic, and more on our Tumblr. Follow us on Twitter for thirsty GIFs. Bim is @bimadew and Nichole is @tnwhiskeywoman. Our music is by Tanya Morgan. Send your drabbles to Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 107: Lusting Out Loud (with Bim Adewunmi and Nichole Perkins)

This week, writers and friends of the show Bim Adewunmi and Nichole Perkins tell us about their brand new podcast, Thirst Aid Kit. They talk Comic-Con, Jeff Goldblum, and why thirst - for women of color in particular - is both fun and important. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 25: Stop Telling Women to Smile (with Tatyana Fazlalizadeh) - Encore

This week, we bring you an encore episode featuring the return of Men Gotta Do Better (you know how males be), a Southern phrase quiz, and an interview with Tatyana Fazlalizadeh, the artist behind the Stop Telling Women To Smile street art project. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 24: Ida Bae Wells (with Nikole Hannah-Jones) - Encore

This week, we bring you an encore episode featuring Tracy's Animal Corner, Six Degrees of Housing Segregation with Gene Demby of NPR's Code Switch podcast, and an interview with investigative reporter extraordinaire and MacArthur Genius Award winner Nikole Hannah-Jones. If you're interested in pigeons, pumpkin spice, and affirmative action, this episode is for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 106: The Sauce Awards (with Amber Rose, Quinta Brunson, and Victor Pope Jr., LIVE in LA)

When we found out Los Angeles wasn't hosting any awards shows when we'd be in town (rude), we decided to throw our own - enter, "The Sauce Awards," where we celebrate renaissance woman Quinta Brunson, internet hero Victor Pope Jr., and the one and only Amber Rose! Quinta talks about her collaboration with Shondaland in the age of Trump, Victor reveals the inspiration for his use of props on Vine, and Amber talks SlutWalk, feminism, ovulation apps, and more. Come for the sauce, because the sauce is forever. And come check out our live show in Toronto - featuring artist HateCopy aka Maria Qamar and writer Scaachi Koul - on Saturday, October 14th at 9:15pm at the Ted Rogers Cinema. It's a part of the Hot Docs Podcast Festival. For tickets and more info, go Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 105: Go Outside (with Rahawa Haile, Brother Nature, and Velva Clayton)

In honor of Mental Health Awareness Week, we celebrate nature and the rejuvenating qualities of going outside. Writer Rahawa Haile talks to us about hiking the Appalachian Trail (yup, the whole damn thing) and Kelvin Peña aka Brother Nature himself describes the origins of his YouTube-famous Deer Squad. Plus, Tracy's mom Velva stops by the stude to tell us about an infamous family fishing trip. And come hang with us at our live show in Toronto on October 14th - get tix here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 104: Keep Them Socks On, Playa (with Brittany Luse and Eric Eddings)

This week, Brittany Luse and Eric Eddings of the Gimlet podcast, The Nod, join us for a spirited PewPewPew session. Brittany comes clean about her longtime use of transitions lenses, Eric explains whether or not casseroles are "good for the blacks," and we all celebrate the literary genius that is Zane. The Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 103: Reclaim Your Bootyhole (Live from London)

On this week's episode, we bring you our first international live show ever! We went to London for the Shout Out Live Podcast Festival where we sang the praises of British television (namely Tracy's newfound favorite show, "Embarrassing Bodies"). Then we chatted with writer Bolu Babalola about the beauty of creating dark-skinned black women characters in her stories, and actor Susan Wokoma (of "Chewing Gum" and "Crazyhead") on why she loathes being described as an overnight success. Plus, a very special joint round from us both. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 6: Lit Like Bic (with Desus Nice) - Encore

This week we bring you an encore of perhaps our tipsiest episode yet featuring the one and only Desus Nice. We share some questions we have for white people, then chat with Desus about people misunderstanding his Twitter jokes, the wedding episode of A Different World, and Richard Wright. Come for the riveting conversation, stay for the moment we realize we shouldn't drink straight bourbon when recording the show! And come to our live show in Los Angeles on October 3rd at the Theatre at Ace...


Episode 102: Our Bonus Celebration!

This week we bring you some bonus material celebrating over 100 episodes of Another Round! First, our fabulous Production Fellows aka Fellies, Agerenesh Ashagre and Alex Laughlin, surprise us with some listener stories. Then we share with you a special edition of PewPewPew, guessed! And keep listening till the end if you want to hear the evolution of a very integral part of the show...! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Our 101nst Episode Celebration!

This week we celebrate our 101nst episode! That's right, the 101nst. Having made over 100 episodes, we wanted to take some time to reflect on where we've been, what we've learned, and how our airhorn noises have improved (tremendously). Join us as we interview some very special guests (their names rhyme with Shmeben and Shmacy), and share with you some of our favorite moments from the show. And we didn't have space to share all the fun stuff we wanted to share with you in this week's episode, so make sure you listen to next week's show for some bonus 101nst celebration conversations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Episode 100: Kunta in the House (with LeVar Burton)

This week, we're bringing you our wide-ranging conversation with the one and only LeVar Burton. He tells us the life lesson he learned from Dr. Maya Angelou while working on Roots, what he wishes he could say to Star Trek writers about his character Geordi La Forge, and how his love of reading led him to Reading Rainbow in the past, and his new podcast Levar Burton Reads in the present. Be forewarned: he just might scandalize you when he reveals his hidden talent. And make sure you listen till the end of the episode - you won't regret it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit