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The Vergecast is your source for an irreverent and informative look at what's happening right now (and next) in the world of technology and gadgets. Hosted by Joshua Topolsky, Nilay Patel, and Paul Miller alongside a cavalcade of tech luminaries, The Vergecast is the only podcast you need to make sense of the week in tech news. And your life.

The Vergecast is your source for an irreverent and informative look at what's happening right now (and next) in the world of technology and gadgets. Hosted by Joshua Topolsky, Nilay Patel, and Paul Miller alongside a cavalcade of tech luminaries, The Vergecast is the only podcast you need to make sense of the week in tech news. And your life.


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The Verge


The Vergecast is your source for an irreverent and informative look at what's happening right now (and next) in the world of technology and gadgets. Hosted by Joshua Topolsky, Nilay Patel, and Paul Miller alongside a cavalcade of tech luminaries, The Vergecast is the only podcast you need to make sense of the week in tech news. And your life.






Galaxy Z Flip review, CBS streaming service revamp plans, and Android 11 features so far

Stories discussed this week: Folding glass: how, why, and the truth of Samsung’s Z Flip A Motorola Razr’s screen is reportedly peeling right on the fold Galaxy Z Flip teardown reveals that its hinge brushes may not block much dust Galaxy Z Flip durability test calls Samsung’s Ultra Thin ‘Glass’ into question Leaked images show TCL prototype phone with expandable, slide-out display Dish Network floats merger with DirecTV over pace of cord-cutting CBS is planning an improved streaming service...


Chief Product Officer of Adobe Scott Belsky returns

Chief Product Officer of Adobe Scott Belsky chats with Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel and reporter Dami Lee about what he learned from putting Photoshop on the iPad, adapting products to new creators and platforms, Creative Cloud for the Mac Pro, and the goals of the Content Authenticity Initiative. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Motorola Razr review, Samsung's Galaxy S20 event, and T-Mobile and Sprint allowed to merge

Stories discussed this week: Motorola Razr review: folding flip phone flops Motorola Razr undergoes iFixit’s ‘most complicated’ teardown yet Samsung learned some tough lessons from the Galaxy Fold debacle Samsung’s Galaxy Z Flip beats the Motorola Razr in nearly every way Samsung Galaxy Z Flip first look: folding glass changes everything The Galaxy S20 is the first high-refresh display phone many people will own Why Samsung’s 108-megapixel camera isn’t just a gimmick All of the biggest...


New Jersey’s former attorney general on Ring cameras and facial recognition

In this week’s Vergecast, former New Jersey attorney general Anne Milgram stopped by the studio to talk with Verge editor in chief Nilay Patel and me, senior reporter Colin Lecher. As Nilay notes, Milgram, who also co-hosts the podcast Stay Tuned with Preet Bharara, is “the first cop we’ve ever had on the show,” and gave some thoughtful responses to questions about surveillance, predictive policing, and more. “We all, I think, have the right reaction, which is we don’t want to use data...


Iowa caucus app issues, Panos Panay takes over both Microsoft’s hardware and software, and Google reveals Q4 earnings

Stories discussed this week; Election tech was supposed to clean up the Iowa caucus … Iowa's caucus fracas shows we're still too ignorant about how … America is bad at voting (it isn’t just Iowa) US attorney general says tech and telecom industries should invest in Huawei competitors Donald Trump ‘apoplectic’ in call with Boris Johnson over Huawei US pushing tech and telecom industries to build 5G alternative to Huawei Microsoft’s Windows future is now tied to hardware Microsoft's Surface...


How 5G and edge computing fit into the future of Intel’s traditionally chip-focused lineup

Intel is one of the biggest names in the tech world, with chips that quite literally are the brains behind most of the computers and servers that we use every day. But the world of computers is expanding and Intel is changing, too, with a focus on both edge computing that puts processing resources in the cloud and the power that’s available directly on the physical device. And at the head of that is Dr. Venkata (Murthy) Renduchintala, the chief engineering officer and group president of the...


iPad turns 10, Apple's first quarter earnings, and what Google is doing with the Search design

Stories discussed this week: Former Windows chief reveals Microsoft's reaction to the iPad … Apple's iPad changed the tablet game 10 years ago today … The iPad is still finding its place ten years in Microsoft's Surface Pro X is the world's most extravagant ... Apple's iPhone 11 and AirPods help company hit a new … Apple reportedly working on tracking tags, high ... Google's ads just look like search results now How much longer will we trust Google's search results? Google is backtracking on...


Neil Young says the Macbook Pro has “Fisher-Price” audio quality

Musician Neil Young and tech executive Phil Baker have been trying to push the tech industry to make it easier for consumers to listen to high-quality audio for almost a decade now. The duo’s hi-res music player Pono aimed to fix problems they said plagued MP3 players like the iPod and music software like iTunes — like compressed, lossy, and low-fidelity audio files that were not similar enough to their original recordings. But five years after the Pono was released, Young believes the tech...


Apple's encryption controversy, Bezos's hacked phone, and Sonos stopping old product updates

Stories from this week: Trump demands Apple unlock iPhones: ‘They have the keys to so many criminals and criminal minds’ How to FBI-proof your encrypted iPhone backups Can Apple live up to Apple’s privacy ads? Apple rejects AG Barr’s claim that it didn’t assist with Pensacola shooting probe The FBI has asked Apple to unlock another shooter’s iPhone Senator asks Jeff Bezos for more information on Saudi-linked hack Saudi Arabian prince reportedly hacked Jeff Bezos’ phone with malicious...


Rep. David Cicilline on regulating big tech monopolies

After a congressional hearing with executives from Sonos, Tile, Basecamp, and PopSockets, the chairman of the House Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law, Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI), speaks to The Verge’s Nilay Patel and Adi Robertson about leading an investigation into how big tech platforms like Google, Amazon, and Apple are affecting competition for other tech companies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


August's Yves Behar and Jason Johnson unlock the smart home

Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel interviews Yves Behar and Jason Jason, co-founders of the smartlock company August about their new products, the state of the smart home, and making products that work in both European and American homes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su talks new Ryzen 4000 chips and out-performing Intel

Editor-in-chief of The Verge Nilay Patel talks to CEO of AMD Dr Lisa Su at CES 2020 about AMD's new Ryzen laptop chips, the competition with Intel for consumer laptops, and if she is going to take on the high end of Nvidia's GPUs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


Microsoft’s Edge Chromium launches, NBC reveals Peacock details, and our CES takeaways

Stories this week: The Verge Awards at CES 2020: welcome to the land of the concept Eight big takeaways from CES 2020 These gaming PCs want to compete in the console wars Laptops were boring at CES, but there’s hope for the future The most important TVs of CES 2020 were finally for the masses Microsoft’s new Edge Chromium browser launches on Windows and macOS How to install extensions on Microsoft’s new Edge browser The browser wars are back, but it’s different this time Google is finally...


Anna Wiener's Uncanny Valley

Anna Wiener talks to Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel about her book Uncanny Valley, a memoir about her time in Silicon Valley working for startups when they were new and flashy. Wiener also discusses the shift in tone to the reality of what technology and connection do to us and our culture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


OnePlus' CEO Pete Lau doesn't think folding phones are good enough

At CES 2020, The Verge's Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn sat down with OnePlus CEO Pete Lau in his first podcast appearance to talk about the OnePlus concept phone with a disappearing camera as well as his thoughts on newer technologies in the smartphone world, like 5G and folding phones. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit


CES 2020 roundtable: Concept cars, Quibi, foldables, and more

Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Ashley Carman, and Sean O'Kane highlight the most important, weird, and surprising things The Verge saw at CES 2020. Stories from this episode: Sonos said what every smaller tech company was thinking: working with big tech sucks Amazon’s hardware boss responds to Sonos accusations of stolen technology Sony’s electric car is the best surprise of CES Byton’s 48-inch screen might not be as distracting as it looks Mercedes-Ben’s Avatar-themed concept car with scales...


CES 2020 Day 1: Sero rotating TV, Galaxy Chromebook, and a preview of the week

Recorded live in Las Vegas, The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Ashley Carman discuss what has already been announced at the start of CES 2020 as well as what to expect throughout the week. Stories discussed in this episode: Amazon’s Fire TV soundbars will get Dolby Atmos, HDMI switching, and more later this year Samsung details its stunning bezel-less 8K TV Samsung’s new Sero TV can rotate vertically for your TikTok and Instagram videos LG unveils eight ‘Real 8K’ OLED and LCD TVs...


The lives of YouTube moderators, a new smart home standard, and the Xbox Series X announced

Stories discussed this week: Google and YouTube moderators speak out on the work that’s … Big tech is finally working together to fix the smart home Z-Wave is making a huge change so it doesn’t get left behind in the smart home wars Ikea 2.0: inside the furniture giant’s big bet on the smart home ... This Apple Watch charger plugs directly into a USB-C port so you can carry fewer cords Xbox Series X: all the news about Microsoft’s next-gen game console Microsoft’s next Xbox is Xbox Series X,...


The toxic work environment at Away

Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks Verge news reporter Zoe Schiffer about the concerning work conditions at luggage startup Away and the details from the Verge investigation. Further reading: Former Away employees describe a toxic work environment Away replaces CEO Steph Korey after Verge investigation The Away scandal is a moment of reckoning for Slack Here’s the leaked memo in which Away tells employees not to fave The Verge’s investigation Away’s new CEO was going to be second in...


Apple's expensive Mac Pro, gadgets of the decade, and Twitter's project Bluesky

Stories this week: Apple’s most expensive Mac Pro costs $52,599 Apple’s most expensive Pro Display XDR requires a special, Apple-made cloth to clean it You can now buy Apple's new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR … The Mac Pro's optional wheels cost $400 Logitech made a bespoke $200 magnetic 4K webcam for … Apple will reportedly release an iPhone without any ports in 2021 Lightroom finally adds direct photo import on iOS The Apple TV remote is so bad that a Swiss TV company developed a normal...