The Fall Line: True Crime

Two years ago, Eric Carter-Landin joined us to talk about the cold case of his baby brother Jacob, his hopes for progress in Jacob’s case, and his work on behalf of other families in New Mexico. Now, in advance of our New Mexico season, we speak again to bring you major updates in Eric’s fight for Justice for Jacob. We also cover Eric’s new nonprofit, Angels’ Voices Silenced No More, and the conference he’s co-founded and planned for 2025, AdvocacyCon. Follow The Youth Development Center on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts! Justice For Jacob: https://www.facebook.com/justiceforjacoblandin/ True Consequences: https://www.trueconsequences.com/ Angels’ Voices Silenced No More: https://www.angelsvoicesnm.org/ AVSNM Baby Shower Drive: https://www.amazon.com/.../ls/1N71RNMKTF3YG/ref=hz_ls_biz_ex AdvocacyCon: https://www.advocacycon.com/ Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case to The Fall Line: Submit a case here Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

A re-release of our April 2022 episode featuring Eric Carter-Landin to refresh listeners before our midseason episode—which premieres tomorrow, July 10th—to provide updates in the case. Eric Carter-Landin didn’t set out to be an advocate; but as the family member of a murder victim whose case was closed, he watched other disturbing cases unfold in his home state of New Mexico, and he felt called to do something about it: to help families, to shine a light on the failings in the system, and, eventually, to seek justice for his own brother, was was killed at only nine months old. Follow The Youth Development Center on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts! Justice for Jacob: https://www.facebook.com/justiceforjacoblandin/ True Consequences: https://www.trueconsequences.com/ Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case to The Fall Line: Submit a case here Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

In October of 1988, the remains of a homicide victim were found in a rural area of Grays Harbor County, just outside Elma, Washington. A dedicated detective worked her case for years—first in his role with the sheriff's office, and then as coroner. Even now, in his retirement, he’s followed the case. Despite thousands of hours of investigation, her identity remained elusive; but then, in 2018, forensic investigative genetic genealogy became a possibility, and The DNA Doe Project took on the case of the Grays Harbor Jane Doe. But her case has proved incredibly difficult, and genelaogists and investigators need your help to reconnect her to her identity, and solve her murder. Season 18 covers four unsolved homicides in four states and across three decades: all are in need of local and national attention to be resolved. Go to HelloFresh.com/fallapps for FREE appetizers for life! https://www.hellofresh.com/fallapps To learn more about uploading your DNA: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/news-1/2022/7/11/guide-to-uploading-to-gedmatch To support DNA Doe Project: https://dnadoeproject.org/donate/ Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case here Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

For almost thirty years, Susan Minard Lund’s children believed she’d run away and abandoned them; after she disappeared on Christmas Eve of 1992 in Clarksville TN, a search was launched, but late the next year, her missing-persons report was closed. That’s because a woman in Alabama claimed to be Sue, and authorities accepted the claim. Her siblings and parents never believed it, though, and they were proven right. Her story, and the story of Ina Jane Doe, are the throughline of Laurah Norton’s book, LAY THEM TO REST, and Sue’s family joins us to tell a piece of the story not covered in the book: what it’s been like to deal with the aftermath of knowledge of what they learned—and what the rest of the justice they are waiting for. Season 18 covers four unsolved homicides in four states and across three decades: all are in need of local and national attention to be resolved. Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case here Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

The second episode in our coverage of the case of Lisa Lewis: in January of 1999, 27-year-old college senior and expectant mother Velecia “Lisa” Lewis was living in a South Memphis apartment with her mother, Bea; she was looking forward to spring because she’d be graduating, and her daughter was due to be born. But just after New Year’s, Lisa’s mother arrived home from work and discovered Lisa had been murdered. And now, Lisa’s cousin—who worked in law enforcement departments for years—is trying to solve her cold homicide case. Season 18 covers four unsolved homicides in four states and across three decades: all are in need of local and national attention to be resolved. Head to https://tryfum.com/fall and use code FALL to get a free gift with your order today! Angela’s Facebook page for Lisa: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61555374294770 Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case here Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

In January of 1999, 27-year-old college senior and expectant mother Velecia “Lisa” Lewis was living in a South Memphis apartment with her mother, Bea; she was looking forward to spring because she’d be graduating, and her daughter was due to be born. But just after New Year's, Lisa’s mother arrived home from work and discovered Lisa had been murdered. And now, Lisa’s cousin—who worked in law enforcement departments for years—is trying to solve her cold homicide case. Season 18 covers four unsolved homicides in four states and across three decades: all are in need of local and national attention to be resolved. Head to https://tryfum.com/fall and use code FALL to get a free gift with your order today! Angela’s Facebook page for Lisa: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61555374294770 Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case here Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

Our second episode of two covering the unsolved death of Iman Cannon: on May 13th, 2008, the body of 21-year-old Tennessee native Iman Cannon was discovered behind the Atlanta business complex that housed Club Crucial, a night spot founded by rapper TI. Iman, an aspiring rapper, had moved to Georgia for a fresh start. But less than a year after his relocation, he was murdered by unknown assailants, and his mother Sheila, still has no answers. Season 18 covers four unsolved homicides in four states and across three decades: all are in need of local and national attention to be resolved. Head to https://tryfum.com/fall and use code FALL to get a free gift with your order today! Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case here Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

On May 13th, 2008, the body of 21-year-old Tennessee native Iman Cannon was discovered behind the Atlanta business complex that housed Club Crucial, a night spot founded by rapper TI. Iman, an aspiring rapper, had moved to Georgia for a fresh start. But less than a year after his relocation, he was murdered by unknown assailants, and his mother Sheila, still has no answers. Season 18 covers four unsolved homicides in four states and across three decades: all are in need of local and national attention to be resolved. Start the Good Habit at https://tryfum.com/fall to save 10% off the Journey Pack today. Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case here Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

In 2021, we brought you a then little-known story: the unsolved case of Leon Laureles, a beloved brother and uncle who was murdered on the side of a rural Texas highway. Since then, his case has become a focus for cold-case advocates—especially his own niece, Arlene. At every turn, Arlene has been frustrated in her search for answers, but that hasn’t stopped her. And in the past year, surprising new information has come to light. Download Two Dots now for free on Android and iOS! JUSTICE FOR LEON: https://justiceforleon.com/ You can also find Leon’s petition at the website! BOX IN THE BASEMENT PODCAST: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/box-in-the-basement/id1723375430 Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

In our season finale, we speak with advocates from Light the Way about their work on cases of missing persons like Patty Otto, Maura Murray, Theresa Corley, and many more, plus discuss best ways to help with the cases you care about—and the possible pitfalls of advocacy. Season 17, Missing Mothers, covers the stories of two daughters, their missing mothers, and cases—and people—who have intersected with their searches. Head to factormeals.com/fall50 and use code fall50 to get 50% off! Follow Light the Way: https://www.lightthewaymissing.com/ Follow Patty’s Voice: https://www.facebook.com/p/Pattys-Voice-100077422495262/ Follow Finley Creek Jane Doe: https://www.facebook.com/finleycreekjanedoe/ Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

Our final episode exploring Patricia Otto’s 1976 disappearance, local law enforcement’s suspicions regarding her husband, and the possible intersection with another case: a Jane Doe homicide victim discovered just two hours away. Season 17, Missing Mothers, covers the stories of two daughters, their missing mothers, and cases—and people—who have intersected with their searches. Go to DailyHarvest.com/FALL to get up to $30 off your first box + free shipping, for a limited time only. Follow Light the Way: https://www.lightthewaymissing.com/ Follow Patty’s Voice: https://www.facebook.com/p/Pattys-Voice-100077422495262/ Follow Finley Creek Jane Doe: https://www.facebook.com/finleycreekjanedoe/ Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

We continue our coverage of Patricia Otto’s 1976 disappearance, local law enforcement’s suspicions regarding her husband, and the possible intersection with another case: a Jane Doe homicide victim discovered just two hours away. Season 17, Missing Mothers, covers the stories of two daughters, their missing mothers, and cases—and people—who have intersected with their searches. Go to DailyHarvest.com/FALL to get up to $30 off your first box + free shipping, for a limited time only. Head to factormeals.com/fall50 and use code fall50 to get 50% off! Follow Light the Way: https://www.lightthewaymissing.com/ Follow Patty’s Voice: https://www.facebook.com/p/Pattys-Voice-100077422495262/ Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

After her mother’s mysterious, late-night disappearance one August night in 1976, an Idaho-born woman must unpack her early childhood memories, local law enforcement’s suspicions regarding her own father, and the possible intersection with another case: a Jane Doe homicide victim discovered just two hours away. Season 17, Missing Mothers, covers the stories of two daughters, their missing mothers, and cases—and people—who have intersected with their searches. Go to DailyHarvest.com/FALL to get up to $30 off your first box + free shipping, for a limited time only. Follow Light the Way: https://www.lightthewaymissing.com/ Follow Patty’s Voice: https://www.facebook.com/p/Pattys-Voice-100077422495262/ Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

The second in a two-part series covering one daughter’s search for her mother, how she became an advocate for missing persons in unhoused communities, and the intertwined stories of their childhoods; with all she knows about her mother, Cloudia Leslie Wells, Robin believes that she could truly be anywhere. After all—she’s gotten proof once. Season 17, Missing Mothers, covers the stories of two daughters, their missing mothers, and cases—and people—who have intersected with their searches. Head to factormeals.com/fall50 and use code fall50 to get 50% off! Follow Robin’s Search: Missing Cloudia Leslie Wells and Support and Follow: :Missing and Homeless Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

The first in a two-part series covering one daughter’s search for her mother, how she became an advocate for missing persons in unhoused communities, and the intertwined stories of their childhoods; with all she knows about her mother, Cloudia Leslie Wells, Robin believes that she could truly be anywhere. After all—she’s gotten proof once. Season 17, Missing Mothers, covers the stories of two daughters, their missing mothers, and cases—and people—who have intersected with their searches. Go to DailyHarvest.com/FALL to get up to $30 off your first box + free shipping, for a limited time only. Follow Robin’s Search: Missing Cloudia Leslie Wells and Support and Follow: Missing and Homeless Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

The wives and daughters of Dubai’s ruler live in unbelievable luxury. So why do the women in Sheikh Mohammed’s family keep trying to run away? The New Yorker staff writer Heidi Blake joins In the Dark’s Madeleine Baran to tell the story of the royal women who risked everything to flee the brutality of one of the world’s most powerful men. In four episodes, drawing on thousands of pages of secret correspondence and never-before-heard audio recordings, “The Runaway Princesses” takes listeners behind palace walls, revealing a story of astonishing courage and cruelty. “The Runaway Princesses” is a four-part narrative series from In the Dark and The New Yorker. To keep listening, follow In the Dark wherever you get your podcasts.

Listeners: We're excited to share news about a new show that we think you'll love. Media Pressure Season One: The Untold Story of Maura Murray premieres on Monday, February 5th, 2024. Follow now in your favorite podcast player to be the first to hear new episodes: https://link.chtbl.com/RtW5rK0P For more information about the show and the case of Maura Murray, visit MediaPressure.com or MauraMurrayMissing.org.

In our midseason episode, we update you on the case of Leona LeClair Kinsey, and feature new information from her daughter, Carolyn DeFord—who believes it is vital that these facts reach the widest audience possible. You’ll also meet several key players in our upcoming season, Missing Mothers, which begins February 7th. Go to DailyHarvest.com/FALL to get up to $65 off your first box + free shipping, for a limited time only. Our previous, three-part series with Carolyn: Part 1: https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/id/27329394 Part 2: https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/id/27329391 Part 3: https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/id/27329388 Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2024 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

Laurah is sick; apologies for hoarseness. The last five episodes have presented more than 20 cold cases in desperate need of resolution. For many, the only chance will come through FIGG—DNA testing and forensic investigative genetic genealogy. This episode, we move beyond our Nashville Does coverage to speak with Redgrave Research about how some of the most difficult cases are solved, and about their successful work resolving a case with Laurah—one tied to both Tennessee and Illinois. Flyers for the season will be posted under “news” on our website and on our social media. TRY PELOTON NOW: for Peloton’s best offer of the season, head to onepeloton.com/deals Download EarnIn today! Find it in the Google play or Apple app store. When you download the EarnIn app type in Fall Line under PODCAST when you sign up. Redgrave Research: https://redgraveresearch.com/ TDTF: https://transdoetaskforce.org/ Our episode on the LAMMP database: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/episodes/2021/5/26/mapping-lgbtq-missing-and-murdered-lammp Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

Laurah is sick; apologies for hoarseness. Episode 5 presents the most difficult cases in MNPD’s files: cases limited to a single element, or bone, dead-ended by clues that led nowhere, or, in the case of the River Road John Doe, where the decedent’s remains are no longer available—that’s why we need your help to try and match him with a missing person, based on the clues we have, and the ones we have uncovered. Season 16 of The Fall Line takes on our most in-depth John and Jane Doe coverage yet: 22 files from MNPD’s cold-case unit, all covering the metro area’s unidentified decedents. More than ever, your help is needed to spread the word about each of the cases featured this season, and if you have any information—please, contact MNPD at 615-862-7803. Flyers for the season will be posted under “news” on our website and on our social media. TRY PELOTON NOW: for Peloton’s best offer of the season, head to onepeloton.com/deals Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon to fund therapy initiatives: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC